Just a question how are you going to srt preset when you don't even know where you are going to setup for the day. It is very rare that I sit a tree more then once a year. I am always moving and looking for hot sign and new places. Even on our own ground that my dad and I own I don't sit the same trees repeatedly. Gotta keep the deer guessing don't let them pattern you. That is why I prefer a simple stick setup. Can be used anywhere anytime. No messing around just simple.
DRT is kind of on the same playing field. It hasn't gained the hype status like 1 sticking has, but it's always on the defense. Especially if there is a video of some dude humping up a rope yelling how easy it is. Better yet tossing a ball 70' through a 10" break in the canopy saying "just takes a little practice".
One stick is my alternative to my preference of SRT. SRT is easier and quicker (assuming preset paracord) and safer than one stick. One stick is just with me for situations when sign dictates I hunt somewhere unplanned.
Wait... what? You mean this isn’t actually him?
70’ though? Dang you climb way too high for me bro... I try to hit branches around 25’. A slingshot makes it easier than practicing. And if you just take 6 short Pcs (like 24-30” long) of 3/4” PVC you can girth hitch at the bottom of a tree with no branches and just work it up to your preferred height. I mean sure you need a prusik a tether or linesman rope and a small pulley to make a false crotch, but it can still be down without throwing a ball 70’ in the air.
Up and back down on a standard 35’ limb is 70 ft. Remember, you have to get it over the limb but also back down. Getting it back down isn’t always a breeze. Like many others I found rope climbing a breeze to do; however, getting the rope into the tree was time consuming and a pain. I can’t hit limbs all day in the open. Once you add underbrush and tight trees the angle you get for your throw changes and things get more complex and quite frankly annoying. If you are always changing trees and unable or unwilling to set presets it will be a pain in the butt. You Gotta use what’s best for the given situation. One sticking is not the end all be all but it checks a lot of boxes and therefore is hard to be dethroned as the “all around” solid climbing method. How come none of us engineers have made an excel spreadsheet for this stuff yet. It’s simple that simple! Haha70’ though? Dang you climb way too high for me bro... I try to hit branches around 25’. A slingshot makes it easier than practicing. And if you just take 6 short Pcs (like 24-30” long) of 3/4” PVC you can girth hitch at the bottom of a tree with no branches and just work it up to your preferred height. I mean sure you need a prusik a tether or linesman rope and a small pulley to make a false crotch, but it can still be down without throwing a ball 70’ in the air.
I am not saying any one method is best, just that all methods have pros and cons in any given situation.
PS I don’t prefer the term hump the rope while I climb, I prefer make love to it
You aren’t at 16 lbs anymore with all that PVC pipe. Also, good luck hauling that around without making noise or getting stuck in bushes lol. You’re really selling rope climbing well haha70’ though? Dang you climb way too high for me bro... I try to hit branches around 25’. A slingshot makes it easier than practicing. And if you just take 6 short Pcs (like 24-30” long) of 3/4” PVC you can girth hitch at the bottom of a tree with no branches and just work it up to your preferred height. I mean sure you need a prusik a tether or linesman rope and a small pulley to make a false crotch, but it can still be down without throwing a ball 70’ in the air.
I am not saying any one method is best, just that all methods have pros and cons in any given situation.
PS I don’t prefer the term hump the rope while I climb, I prefer make love to it
He said throw the ball 70’ up, he never mentioned back down, so I figure he’s hunting the giant redwoods of Cali or something lol... and I’m totally working on an excel spread sheet for this very topic. Data to be tracked: number of people using this system, time for set up, cost, weight, ease of use and of course the all important area or location and vegetation type
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Care to share your pulley pvc rope progresser in a separate thread for climbing methods. Id be interested to see what you’ve come up with. I’ve seen others use pvc but didn’t like their solution for progressing the rope because it usually sounded extremely noisy and required more gear. @ me if you decide to post some pics of your climbing method.He said throw the ball 70’ up, he never mentioned back down, so I figure he’s hunting the giant redwoods of Cali or something lol... and I’m totally working on an excel spread sheet for this very topic. Data to be tracked: number of people using this system, time for set up, cost, weight, ease of use and of course the all important area or location and vegetation type
Seriously though the areas I hunt has tons of oaks, pines, and palmettos everywhere. We have wild vines and the trees can be in very close proximity. We sink in marsh for some hunts. It’s just life. I personally haven’t had an issue getting a throw ball up to a limb or finding a tree. And if I choose to hunt a pine or a palm, I use pvc and a pulley to slide a false crotch up the tree. I definitely see your points as well. And one sticking will be the perfect answer for some. I just know from experience that it wasn’t the answer for me. Anytime I give a response it is for my knowledge or FROM my experiences. I appreciate those with difference of opinion, it’s how we all learn new things
6 PCs of pvc fit in an arrow quiver and the same rubber gear tie you one stickers use, I can use to keep them from making noise
I mean your 20” stick weighs more than my pvc and you carry half as much rope as I do so that you can get back down quicker... add in price and I call it a wash. I think for me with ropes, my uncle is a foreman of an arborist company. I also spent some of my youth working shrimp boats, snapper boats, and yachts. I’ve been on outriggers and using bosons chairs since a young age. So rope systems just made sense climbing for hunting. And because of my “adult” profession So do spurs when I’m allowed to douse them. I think you are on to something with the one sticking and a platform on top, but in my mind there has to be a little easier way over all. Who knows maybe you, myself or someone from this site will come up with the next “game changing” way to climb the tree and hopefully we patent it before someone with a high dollar attorney does it first lolYes sir, I’ll reach out and let you know when I get a chance to record and get it up for you
I was all set to go DRT/SRT then people started talking about ”presets” and I’m like whaaaat? What happened to mobile, hunt every tree etc? I like to be able to walk in the woods, in the dark, and pick a tree and climb it. Even the SRT gods were saying “yeah, you kind of need a preset to do that.” Hmmmm….no thanks.
DRT/SRT for an afternoon hunt with no preset is fine. You DO NOT want to try and throw a throw ball in the dark pre-dawn hours.
My head lamp has three settings, low red light for when I don’t want anyone to see me or me to see past 5’, a green light when I want to see about 20’ and an OMG I’m blind light... guess which one I use for the 20 to 30 seconds I’m looking straight up to use my throw ball in the am
it’s not different than shinning deer which is highly illegal and I do not recommend. Seriously though in my experience a deer sees a bright light, it reflects off its eyes, the deer doesn’t move (like when they are on the interstate) then when I turn the light off, they bump and run about 25 yards stop and sniff around. I’ve scared more of them early afternoon walking out with no light, than I ever have with a head lamp on walking out to the tree and tossing a ball. You guys must encounter deer that are way more intelligent than the ones I encounter. How’s the Ron White joke go when he mentions his cousin Ray and hunting? “The bullet flies 2500 fps and it was magic in the woods” Ron says “yea I hit one with my van going 55mph with the head lights on and the horn blowin, whew that’s a real elusive creature right there” lol
Haha yeah I tried doing presets my very first year of public land hunting. Nope. Went to my preset locations and absolutely zero deer activity. Just too unpredictable. Now with 3 years of solid public-only hunting experience I no longer preset cuz all it takes is for some guy to drag a ladder stand into the area or take his rabbit hunting dogs in and all the deer peace out. Although for the record I have killed multiple deer out of only one single tree on public. And it only happens in the very first week of the season cuz they are still unpressured and on their summer pattern. After that, all bets are off and fresh sign is king. Maybe I should preset that tree though?!
That’s for those 70’ high shots some of these guys are making. Lol
