Etriers

[Scott F]

Yes one loop. It has (2x) overhand knots and (1x) water knot.

The top two steps are offset, the bottom one hangs straight down.
Hope that makes sense, the picture shows this aspect.

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[valerio024]

So the purpose of the water knot is to create a loop at the top that you can use to girth hitch to the steps? Do you remember about how long your length of webbing was?

 

[Scott F]

Tomorrow I will take one apart and measure it for you. It doesnt take long at all to make one like this. If I remember to, I can take some pictures along the way.

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[valerio024]

Thanks for all the help. I just picked up 30' of black webbing from REI to make some.

 

[Scott F]

That is exactly what I have.
I recomend marking the center point of that 30' piece with some tape, to avoid cutting it in half (for now). You'll work with one of these decicated 'halves'.

Find some rope or any flexible object and cut it into three ~6" lengths if you want a 3-step etrier. The rope I used was some 11mm assault line and it is perfect.

You'll want the bottom step to be centered, with the next two steps offset; one oriented to the left, the other to the right. To do this, push the 6" rope sections into the rope. Be sure to use the center rope section for the bottom step of your etrier or you will have the next two steps on the same side of your etrier...dont ask how I discovered this; easy fix though.

You will likely have to adjust the knots a couple of times to get each step length where you want them. It took me less than 5 minutes total to make my second one. When the step lengths are done, you may have to loosen the knots to twist them slightly so your etrier isnt twisted when hanging on your stick.

I am seriously considering only using two sticks for the early season along with my 2 Wild edge Stepps and 2 homemade aluminum angle bracket steps as a platform. I need some dadgum Ameristeps...


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[valerio024]

Thanks for all the help. That really clarifies the process and I don't think I'll have any problems putting an etrier together with my tubular webbing. Now to decide how many steps

 

[justsomedude]

Thanks for all the help. That really clarifies the process and I don't think I'll have any problems putting an etrier together with my tubular webbing. Now to decide how many steps

3 Steps is right for me. With a long aider, you can't reach high enough to even use all the steps.

 

[Dewey]

I really like the idea of a 3 step etrier especially on my lower stick. Anything I can do to lighten my load would be great. My only concern is how hard are the strap steps to find with your feet coming down in the dark? Also what does a 3 step etrier weigh? Is it worth the tradeoff of a 2.5 lb stick?

 

[BassBoysLLP]

I really like the idea of a 3 step etrier especially on my lower stick. Anything I can do to lighten my load would be great. My only concern is how hard are the strap steps to find with your feet coming down in the dark? Also what does a 3 step etrier weigh? Is it worth the tradeoff of a 2.5 lb stick?

I have four 20" sticks each set up with a 5 step aider. I can climb 7.5 feet per stick with this setup. The etriers weigh 8 oz each. Sticks are 1.75 lbs. So 2.25 lbs gets you 7.5 feet, 4.5 lbs gets you 15 feet, 6.75 lbs gets you 22.5 feet, 9 lbs gets you to 30 feet.

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[Dewey]

So with a 5 step you can still reach up to strap on a stick? Thinking with 32" LW sticks that would be pretty hard and a 3 step may be more reasonable. Am I right on this? How easy are the etriers to climb up and down?

I like the sound of the weight reduction. If I could get away with only using two sticks plus my XOP platform kit that would be awesome.


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[Scott F]

This season I am going to try (2x) sticks, both with a (3x) step etrier attached.
Above that I am using (2x) Wild Edge Stepps.
With this I believe my feet can be around 17' - plenty high enough for me.

Coming down can be tricky, but I take my time - lineman's belt is a must as well as 3 points of constant contact for me.

I have "a healthy appreciation" of heights but dont feel unsafe with this set up.

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[BassBoysLLP]

I agree, 32" LW too long for a five step. 3 is probably better.

I use ropes, not straps to set em as they are quieter and easier to work with above your head.

Coming down is easier than you think. Key is to step into the first one deep and it'll set the spacing and position of all subsequent steps. I don't even think about it.

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[Dewey]

Now my question is where can I get a 3 step etrier in camo? The bright colors just don't agree with me.


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[sb220]

pray you get a lighter color one and boil it in some synthetic rit dye. Doesn't take long for dye to color it though, it will quickly turn black so keep an eye on it

 

[BassBoysLLP]

My single and 2 steppers are tubular webbing DIY builds. My 5 steppers I dyed.

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[valerio024]

So are most of you guys that use an etrier using 20" sticks or 30" sticks?

 

[sb220]

I'm one sticking a LW with 3 step etrier.

Doesn't matter what your using. Etriers get you higher/ allow you to carry fewer sticks. Carrying sticks sucks

 

[deleted_user01]

What sticks do you have that are that light weight...?

 

[justsomedude]

When I am climbing down into an Aider, I don't step down. I fish my toe into it and push my foot out sideways so it is set on my foot before I step down. No slipping that way.

My sticks are 20". Only use an aider on the bottom and then single loops on the others if needed.
I like the Trango 3 step lightweight with rubber tubing taped around the steps for my bottom stick. It weighs 6oz mostly due to the rubber tubing.
An Aider on the bottom isn't scary and it buys you a lot of height and is set from the ground so it is kind of a no brainer.

Aiders on sticks up high, I want to be tethered. Stepping onto the bottom of an aider on a leaning tree can have a serious pucker factor.

 

[g2outdoors]

Aiders are a great tool. They do require extra caution and time, however.

Go slow, pay attention, use a good Lineman belt. You'll be fine.