Examples of dangerous carabiner loading

[DelaWhere_Arrow]

Which one of these examples occur when you use a carabiner to attach to your tether as it comes around the tree instead of girth hitching. I am afraid a lot of folks use a carabiner instead of taking the time to thread the rope and attachments through a knotted loop or the spliced eye.


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Wait, seriously?

 

[Aeds151]

Super serio


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[DelaWhere_Arrow]

Super serio


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I didn’t know anyone was Not girth-hitching. Let’s get a climbing instructor or arborist or pro climber who depends on these things for more than just venison-driven life-support, to chime in on that scenario for us. Any takers?

 

[Tony]

 

[Tony]

Skull and Crossbones means you die...

 

[scottprice]

Great info

 

[east_of_90]

Solid information! Only takes a moment to mess up and another moment to realize your on the ground

 

[Aeds151]

Thanks for posting. After last night, this reminded me to go home and hit my kong D-Link with lubricant to take out the squeal when twisting gate open/closed.


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[reggoh75]

Which one of these examples occur when you use a carabiner to attach to your tether as it comes around the tree instead of girth hitching. I am afraid a lot of folks use a carabiner instead of taking the time to thread the rope and attachments through a knotted loop or the spliced eye.


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It seems that the example on the website would be "Multidirectional Loading" for the scenario you are talking about.

 

[weekender21]

Which one of these examples occur when you use a carabiner to attach to your tether as it comes around the tree instead of girth hitching. I am afraid a lot of folks use a carabiner instead of taking the time to thread the rope and attachments through a knotted loop or the spliced eye.


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Hopefully that’s not happening. I haven’t seen any examples on this forum, YouTube, etc.


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[reggoh75]

Hopefully that’s not happening. I haven’t seen any examples on this forum, YouTube, etc.

I think someone addressed it a while back when this thread first started... they recommended using one of the triangle shaped screw links which may be more suited for multidirectional loading. I am not an expert but I remember someone posting about it in another thread.

 

[RedJB81]

Thanks @justsomedude

https://www.petzl.com/US/en/Sport/E...ing-?ActivityName=Mountaineering#.WBdjAxs8LYU

Thanks for sharing Red... good read....

 

[Stinger-Hunter]

Great resource

 

[DB4x4]

I've seen some folks using the triangle shaped quick link on the loop end of their tether. Does this quick link not get side loaded like a carabiner would?

 

[DelaWhere_Arrow]

I've seen some folks using the triangle shaped quick link on the loop end of their tether. Does this quick link not get side loaded like a carabiner would?

That’s the only way to safely girth-hitch with a “carabiner”. That tri-link is designed for cross-loading, BUT I honestly don’t think it’s safer than a rope eye, or much faster. JMHO.

 

[tntrker]

Good info, Thanks

 

[kyler1945]

That’s the only way to safely girth-hitch with a “carabiner”. That tri-link is designed for cross-loading, BUT I honestly don’t think it’s safer than a rope eye, or much faster. JMHO.

It’s not meant to be safer or faster. It’s to assist in getting the rope down easily, without the girth hitch getting in a bind.

I've seen some folks using the triangle shaped quick link on the loop end of their tether. Does this quick link not get side loaded like a carabiner would?

Delta links or oval links for this purpose are steel, and can withstand those conditions.

 

[DB4x4]

I think it would be faster if I was one sticking with a 30' piece of rope as my tether for rappel purposes and needed to go around a branch, no?

Is that a safe/useful application for a triangle quick link?

 

[CrackbottomLouis]

I have been wondering about being able to use a carabiner or something like it to safely girth hitch your tether. What is the way to do so safely with what specific equipment? Would like to try 1 stick and repelling so will have a 30ft tether I would like to easily move above a branch and retrieve once I'm on the ground.

 

[DConnorsIndy]

Which one of these examples occur when you use a carabiner to attach to your tether as it comes around the tree instead of girth hitching. I am afraid a lot of folks use a carabiner instead of taking the time to thread the rope and attachments through a knotted loop or the spliced eye.


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Why wouldn't this work? [..using a carabiner to attach to my tether as it comes around the tree instead of girth hitching..]

I think I've read of others using a carabiner successfully; is that just out of spec? I'm using 25' Sterling HTP 9 MM as a rappel line and tether.