Explain how you rappel from a tree? I don't understand.

[Derek0413]

I agree, if I had a good camera and mount I would do something, I'll try and see if I can get one with my phone tomorrow, got permission to hunt in the morning, so I'll try it.

You’re the man! Just another thought. Problem I see with most videos is that they are not detailed enough. What seems to be common sense thinking to a guy that’s used to the gear, may not be easy to follow to a new guy, like me. I like videos of the camera close and the guy going slow and dumbing it down a lot as he’s explaining and showing what’s going on exactly. Also try to be quiet with the equipment while you’re doing it. That just justifies using it more when I see it’s done quietly. So basically...slow, detailed, and quiet. Thank you!


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[Tedd]

Thank you for the responses. I have the general idea. So your tree weather rope for the saddle is different than you repelling rope?
Since I don't even have my Kestrel yet and not familiar with any of the climbing gear, I'm a little lost in the terminology! Thats ok. I'll figure it out.
Tedd

 

[donnieballgame]

You’re the man! Just another thought. Problem I see with most videos is that they are not detailed enough. What seems to be common sense thinking to a guy that’s used to the gear, may not be easy to follow to a new guy, like me. I like videos of the camera close and the guy going slow and dumbing it down a lot as he’s explaining and showing what’s going on exactly. Also try to be quiet with the equipment while you’re doing it. That just justifies using it more when I see it’s done quietly. So basically...slow, detailed, and quiet. Thank you!


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Man that's a lot to ask for lol, I'll give it a shot. But I do agree about the importance of providing lots of detail in a video.

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[Tedd]

That photo helps, I can see that if you tied a pull down line to the carabiner that you could retrieve your rope. Got it! (i wasn't think there was a carabiner up there on the tree)

 

[Babshaft]

That photo helps, I can see that if you tied a pull down line to the carabiner that you could retrieve your rope. Got it! (i wasn't think there was a carabiner up there on the tree)

You'll want a strong rope (like the 5mm Dwadecharm was talking about) if you tie to the carabiner. For some reason it binds and doesn't like coming out that way. Tie to the eye splice (or however you choose to attach the carabiner) and you shouldn't have any problems. That's just my experience.

 

[okie_edward]

Thank you for the responses. I have the general idea. So your tree weather rope for the saddle is different than you repelling rope?
Since I don't even have my Kestrel yet and not familiar with any of the climbing gear, I'm a little lost in the terminology! Thats ok. I'll figure it out.
Tedd

Yes, most are using a different, and usually smaller diameter rope to rappel. A few use the tether rope full length to the ground. Less to hook up in the tree but a bit more rope to manage.
There are several rappel posts on here with lots of options for rope and descenders, and more importantly the safety specifics.

 

[sureshotscott]

I have been experimenting with the rappel using an ATC Pilot. Hooked it backwards 1st time out and had to fight the system wanting to take me to the ground ASAP!

This was attempted about 5 ft up so NBD but I mention only to remind people to learn low and take it slow and safe.

Also thanks to @justsomedude for harping on use of an autoblock, many good youtube explanations are available...

 

[okie_edward]

Man that's a lot to ask for lol, I'll give it a shot. But I do agree about the importance of providing lots of detail in a video.

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Hopefully some video comes from the demonstrations at the saddlepalooza2018 event as well.

 

[sb220]

just remember that its only worth carrying rappel stuff if youre using some of the minimalist ways of climbing like one stick or maybe spurs(never done that), or rope climbing methods.
If you are using a set of sticks and have to stop to break down platform and 4-5 sticks it would be slower and just be more weight and bulk youre carrying

 

[Derek0413]

Man that's a lot to ask for lol, I'll give it a shot. But I do agree about the importance of providing lots of detail in a video.

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Haha sorry not trying to sound demanding about how to do it, just sharing what detail makes a video more helpful. Just do your best man if ya end up giving it a shot. No hurry, lots of time to practice before season is back in! Which is good cause I have a lot to practice with my whole system yet lol


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[Derek0413]

just remember that its only worth carrying rappel stuff if youre using some of the minimalist ways of climbing like one stick or maybe spurs(never done that), or rope climbing methods.
If you are using a set of sticks and have to stop to break down platform and 4-5 sticks it would be slower and just be more weight and bulk youre carrying

Thanks for sharing that. I was kind of wondering if it’s even an advantage when using sticks. I’m thinking of looking into spurs for some private land I hunt. Guess it could help too on presets, but really it’s just as simple to climb the sticks or steps back down and not carry the extra weight.


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[Adamcincy]

Thanks for sharing that. I was kind of wondering if it’s even an advantage when using sticks. I’m thinking of looking into spurs for some private land I hunt. Guess it could help too on presets, but really it’s just as simple to climb the sticks or steps back down and not carry the extra weight.


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It depends how far apart you set your sticks/Stepps. I use aider a going up but don’t like fishing my foot through the aider in the dark coming down. It is easier for me to repel down the rope undoing my Stepps / sticks on the way down. If you use a grigri or similar device you can lower 6 feet and the device holds you while you take a stick off, lower 6 feet repeat, etc and you are tied in the whole way down. 40 foot of 9mm rope and a grigri weighs maybe a pound and a half.

 

[withakri]

I've been using a the rope wrench setup for SRT with a hitch pulley attached at my saddle. It is pretty sweet. I started using a small pulley on the end of the figure eight as I have a couple of ropes stuck in a few trees. Now they come down like butter. A tree climber I know didnt quite like how I was using the micro pulley against the tree but said it was OK. Below that I have a Haas and foot ascender. The rappel down after shooting a deer is fun. I really like always being tied in. With ernies platform it is all breaks down into a fairly small shoulder pack. I shot that buck about 20 minutes after I walked into a spot all ripped up and quickly tossed up my throw line and climbed the tree.

 

[Babshaft]

I've been using a the rope wrench setup for SRT with a hitch pulley attached at my saddle. It is pretty sweet. I started using a small pulley on the end of the figure eight as I have a couple of ropes stuck in a few trees. Now they come down like butter. A tree climber I know didnt quite like how I was using the micro pulley against the tree but said it was OK. Below that I have a Haas and foot ascender. The rappel down after shooting a deer is fun. I really like always being tied in. With ernies platform it is all breaks down into a fairly small shoulder pack. I shot that buck about 20 minutes after I walked into a spot all ripped up and quickly tossed up my throw line and climbed the tree. View attachment 3931 View attachment 3928

Man that is awesome. Is SRT your preferred climbing method? What do you do if you can't find a tree with a limb at the right height, or your best options are limbless trees?

Thanks

 

[donnieballgame]

Haha sorry not trying to sound demanding about how to do it, just sharing what detail makes a video more helpful. Just do your best man if ya end up giving it a shot. No hurry, lots of time to practice before season is back in! Which is good cause I have a lot to practice with my whole system yet lol


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Btw, I thought I made a video Saturday morning but I apparently didn't record anything, lol. It's been raining since.

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[withakri]

Man that is awesome. Is SRT your preferred climbing method? What do you do if you can't find a tree with a limb at the right height, or your best options are limbless trees?

Thanks

Yah for the most part. I typically have a few trees setup with throwline where I can just walk in and pull up a rope or a couple of tress where I leave up a climbing rope. I was buying end pieces of rope from sterling for ~$25 so I've got two or three ropes now (with a few stuck in trees). I try to have one tree setup with a rope next to the house so I can practice shooting before and during the season. My favorite thing to do is some mid day hiking, find a spot ripped up and then find a tree to setup in. Usually I can find trees with a V or branch at hunting height. I feel like getting the throwline can be exponentially more difficult as you get above 20' so I've learned not to get to greedy if I'm trying to setup for a quick afternoon/evening hunt. If I can't find a tree with a branch or V I've climbed up with my sticks and used a cranford step to put the rope around. No method is perfect but I've found the SRT pretty flexible and compared with a climber putting me in trees with much better cover.

 

[Babshaft]

Yah for the most part. I typically have a few trees setup with throwline where I can just walk in and pull up a rope or a couple of tress where I leave up a climbing rope. I was buying end pieces of rope from sterling for ~$25 so I've got two or three ropes now (with a few stuck in trees). I try to have one tree setup with a rope next to the house so I can practice shooting before and during the season. My favorite thing to do is some mid day hiking, find a spot ripped up and then find a tree to setup in. Usually I can find trees with a V or branch at hunting height. I feel like getting the throwline can be exponentially more difficult as you get above 20' so I've learned not to get to greedy if I'm trying to setup for a quick afternoon/evening hunt. If I can't find a tree with a branch or V I've climbed up with my sticks and used a cranford step to put the rope around. No method is perfect but I've found the SRT pretty flexible and compared with a climber putting me in trees with much better cover.

Awesome! Thanks man!