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EZV SIGHT

I'm sorry guys, this is kinda funny--cool site, browning made one for recurves back in the like late 60's. Its a ranging pin site. put the dear in the right size "box" on site, shoot the pin that matches that color...It actually works ok. I have one. only real problem is deer vary greatly in size, especially here in VT I would consider trying one of these "v" sites on a compound--really helps train your eye on distance vs. size of deer overall l..which is a good thing.

Yes the pins distances are in the opposite order they should be...I just through them on for the pic. The bottom pin is a brass pendulum "treestand" pin, which is supposed to account for the height of a stand, etc....also popular back in the day...and It doesnt work worth a crap :)
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That thing is awesome.
Thanks, its on a Browning Nomad Stalker, with a period correct clamp on browning quiver, and I have a set of browning labeled microflite camo arrows with bear greenies, I'm cleaning up and refletching to go with it. I have a thing for old gear :)
 
After watching several videos on this my concern is the grouping that these people seem happy with. Most are in the kill zone, but they are not even close to shooting good groups(5-6" apart), and they are doing this at 20 or so yards. Are you guys shooting just as good of groups as you did with your old sights?

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I have been thinking about trying one of these.

I want to make my setup as fail proof as possible. Been thinking about putting the whisker biscuit back on to.
 
After watching several videos on this my concern is the grouping that these people seem happy with. Most are in the kill zone, but they are not even close to shooting good groups(5-6" apart), and they are doing this at 20 or so yards. Are you guys shooting just as good of groups as you did with your old sights?

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I haven’t had a deer stand still long enough for me to shoot more than one arrow into it at a time, to see how well I group in hunting scenarios!

All kidding aside, I put around 1500 arrows through the bow with the sight between last year. A big part of this was reconditioning to new anchor with thumb release, and wanting to attempt to master ranging with the sight. What I found through all my shooting is that at known distances, inside of 30 yards, I grouped a little better with a pin sight. 30-60 no difference, maybe even a little better with ezv.

Mostly though, I stopped shooting multiple arrows at same spot for groups once I starred shooting this sight. I can’t really see any sort of advantage to doing so, as a hunter, with a compound bow. And once I got comfortable with the thumb release, I stopped shooting known distances as much.

I won’t argue that people suck at shooting. But the advantage of the sight is not to help stack arrows. It’s to help identify the range of an animal quickly and kill it with a bow.

Something tells me that the people who suck using the ezv, probably suck using a pin sight. I highly doubt it gives folks a false sense of security that wouldn’t be found elsewhere if they hadn’t discovered the sight.
 
I haven’t had a deer stand still long enough for me to shoot more than one arrow into it at a time, to see how well I group in hunting scenarios!

All kidding aside, I put around 1500 arrows through the bow with the sight between last year. A big part of this was reconditioning to new anchor with thumb release, and wanting to attempt to master ranging with the sight. What I found through all my shooting is that at known distances, inside of 30 yards, I grouped a little better with a pin sight. 30-60 no difference, maybe even a little better with ezv.

Mostly though, I stopped shooting multiple arrows at same spot for groups once I starred shooting this sight. I can’t really see any sort of advantage to doing so, as a hunter, with a compound bow. And once I got comfortable with the thumb release, I stopped shooting known distances as much.

I won’t argue that people suck at shooting. But the advantage of the sight is not to help stack arrows. It’s to help identify the range of an animal quickly and kill it with a bow.

Something tells me that the people who suck using the ezv, probably suck using a pin sight. I highly doubt it gives folks a false sense of security that wouldn’t be found elsewhere if they hadn’t discovered the sight.
I guess a better way to ask the question is if you shoot 3 arrows at 30ish yards are you just hoping for any part of the kill zone? That seems to be what everyone is happy with in the videos. I would like to try it but, don't necessarily have an accuracy issue now and, don't want to take a step backwards.

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I guess a better way to ask the question is if you shoot 3 arrows at 30ish yards are you just hoping for any part of the kill zone? That seems to be what everyone is happy with in the videos. I would like to try it but, don't necessarily have an accuracy issue now and, don't want to take a step backwards.

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I don't really understand the question. I can't speak for the folks you're describing. Again, I think we could probably argue whether or not it makes sense to shoot groups at all to practice for hunting. I would say it has absolutely zero value, other than developing form. With a compound bow, there is no sense in shooting groups, once you know how to shoot, and have your bow sighted in. It does not translate in ANY way to hunting. You get one shot at a deer. You don't get three.

I'll say it again. The sight won't make you more accurate than a combination of a rangefinder/any sight. But put 10 seconds on the clock, and an animal between 20-50 yards at an unknown distance, I’ll take me and an EZV against the field with pin sights and guessing yardage. If your deer stand still long enough for you to range them, by all means do that. Since I've owned a rangefinder, I have not ranged a single animal that was in the same spot when I shot it. I have lost a couple of opportunities attempting to fumble with a rangefinder.

I think its odd that guides ask people to shoot a group of arrows to determine if they're accurate enough to hunt. Why not throw a target at random distances and positions and have them make 3 shots at unknown distances and angles. It would make considerably more sense. I think it's just a residue from competition archery.
 
I shot a Keller pendulum site for years and murdered deer with it. I despise a damn range finder for the reason @kyler1945 mentions above. I may have to give this thing a second look. My first look at it began with Garrett’s review and ended when I looked it up and saw the price.
 
With a compound bow, there is no sense in shooting groups, once you know how to shoot,
I have another reason not to shoot groups. I nicked an arrow a few years back shooting tight groups and it went undetected until I released it in the next round. It blew up about three inches in front of the fletchings and stuck a couple of inches into my left forearm. I now shoot no more than three arrows at a time and all at different spots on the target.
 
I shot a Keller pendulum site for years and murdered deer with it. I despise a damn range finder for the reason @kyler1945 mentions above. I may have to give this thing a second look. My first look at it began with Garrett’s review and ended when I looked it up and saw the price.
The old browning can be found new on ebay for about $20 pretty regularly :)
 
I guess a better way to ask the question is if you shoot 3 arrows at 30ish yards are you just hoping for any part of the kill zone? That seems to be what everyone is happy with in the videos. I would like to try it but, don't necessarily have an accuracy issue now and, don't want to take a step backwards.

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I think I know what you are trying to say, as far as if this sight is accurate and consistent. Yes would be my answer. If I shoot a group at 20yds with the EZ-V, my arrows will be touching. They are close to that at 30yds as well.

And for whatever reason, I shoot spots better with the EZ-V sight. I was worried about not being able to shoot at small game with this sight, but that isn't going to be an issue. Hope that helps.
 
Was about to order one to try out but this PayPal surcharge annoys me...

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I think I know what you are trying to say, as far as if this sight is accurate and consistent. Yes would be my answer. If I shoot a group at 20yds with the EZ-V, my arrows will be touching. They are close to that at 30yds as well.

And for whatever reason, I shoot spots better with the EZ-V sight. I was worried about not being able to shoot at small game with this sight, but that isn't going to be an issue. Hope that helps.

Excuse my ignorance, but how does this whole "shooting spots" thing work when your reference for distance, a deer's vitals, isn't in the picture? are you doing this at known distances and using the notches that you know work for that distance?

While you folks that are knowledgeable with this site are pondering a response, how about adding in exactly what reference on the deer, beyond "the vitals", when you shoot. Is it "chest and elbow" or what? I need to know these things, lol.
 
I'm assuming you use the tic marks to spot shoot. I've watched all the videos I can find, I like the concept of no pin, so almost traditional type shooting using a vitals type pin so to speak. I have target panic, so this appeals to me, like shooting a shotgun, point and shoot kind of thing. I dont shoot tournaments, etc, I hunt for meat so rifle like accuracy not required at my hunting distance. I will get one

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I don't really understand the question. I can't speak for the folks you're describing. Again, I think we could probably argue whether or not it makes sense to shoot groups at all to practice for hunting. I would say it has absolutely zero value, other than developing form. With a compound bow, there is no sense in shooting groups, once you know how to shoot, and have your bow sighted in. It does not translate in ANY way to hunting. You get one shot at a deer. You don't get three.

I'll say it again. The sight won't make you more accurate than a combination of a rangefinder/any sight. But put 10 seconds on the clock, and an animal between 20-50 yards at an unknown distance, I’ll take me and an EZV against the field with pin sights and guessing yardage. If your deer stand still long enough for you to range them, by all means do that. Since I've owned a rangefinder, I have not ranged a single animal that was in the same spot when I shot it. I have lost a couple of opportunities attempting to fumble with a rangefinder.

I think its odd that guides ask people to shoot a group of arrows to determine if they're accurate enough to hunt. Why not throw a target at random distances and positions and have them make 3 shots at unknown distances and angles. It would make considerably more sense. I think it's just a residue from competition archery.
Well said!! The very reason I'm going to switch to the EZV!! Very few of my bow kills have been while using a range finder. Of course I range objects to have yardage markers, but it's one less thing to worry about. Especially with older eyes and small pins.
 
But those tic marks correspond to distances, do they not? What are you doing to get the distance for an object that is not “deer vital” sized?

And how do you deal with deer that are quartering?
 
Dalton,
You can watch videos on YouTube, etc, all your questions are addressed, just may have to watch a few of them. There are illustrations on quartering shots etc. From what I've seen your brain adjusts after some practice and it just becomes easier.

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