I read on someone's post that HF has rope like amsteel. Then just last week I got an add from them and they have ATV winch rope, 50', with tow hook and abrasion resistant sleeve. 3/16" diameter. On sale for $24.99. Regularly $29. I bought 2, should have gotten 3. It has a working weight of 3000#. Also has a factory loop on one end. I've made 3 daisy chains so far.