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Headlamp recommendations

I personally like the green lights. Walked up within 15yrds of deer b4 they either winded me or would just trot off to the side n wait for me to pass. Have to keep light right in their eyes the whole time. Also dont let your bow/xbow, arm or anything get in your beam or they gone lol.Screenshot_20230926-111754_Chrome.jpg
 
I have a rechargeable headlight with an internal battery pack and it‘s great, but I feel you on this one as well. So my backup light takes regular batteries, which can also be rechargeable ones, but if I get in a bind for power I can just buy some regular batteries off the shelf.

I’d really be interested in hearing how folks that go out of state and are car camping keep not only their headlight, but all of their rechargeable gear charged with no outlet access.
Car camping I use the car. Backcountry camping I conserve battery on my phone, lights, GPS as much as possible and top them off at night with one of these battery banks:



Note: I do NOT have much confidence in solar panel chargers as my experience has left A LOT to be desired (amount of sun exposure they require versus output).
 
never seen the point of the red glow. Love my zebralight. Insane battery life. The lumen range is good as it gets. Max brightness is perfect for looking for downed game. Lowest is so low your eyes have to adjust to see it. Perfect for climbing the tree just to see my hands. And you get to pick the color temp of the bumb. I use the cool white because it looks cool lol.
 
never seen the point of the red glow. Love my zebralight. Insane battery life. The lumen range is good as it gets. Max brightness is perfect for looking for downed game. Lowest is so low your eyes have to adjust to see it. Perfect for climbing the tree just to see my hands. And you get to pick the color temp of the bumb. I use the cool white because it looks cool lol.
I use a red light for going in/out at dark so as to not spook deer like my white light would. My understanding is that Whitetail deer are red-green colorblind, so these colors appear gray to them.


"Although deer have more rods and can see much better at night, research indicates that deer do see some colors pretty well and mostly sense the colors towards the violet end of the color spectrum. This means that deer have the ability to see blues and even ultraviolet (UV) light, but are also sensitive to white and yellow light as well. So, the most ideal light colors for deer hunting include red, green and orange as deer see these colors as grey and are less startled by them."


"The study confirmed that deer possess two (rather than three as in humans) types of cone photopigments allowing limited color vision. The cone photopigment deer lack is the “red” cone, or the one sensitive to long wavelength colors such as red and orange. These colors aren’t invisible to deer, but rather are perceived differently. Deer are essentially red-green colorblind like some humans. Their color vision is limited to the short (blue) and middle (green) wavelength colors. As a result, deer likely can distinguish blue from red, but not green from red, or orange from red. Therefore, it appears that hunters would be equally suited wearing green, red, or orange clothing but disadvantaged wearing blue."

 
I use a red light for going in/out at dark so as to not spook deer like my white light would. My understanding is that Whitetail deer are red-green colorblind, so these colors appear gray to them.


"Although deer have more rods and can see much better at night, research indicates that deer do see some colors pretty well and mostly sense the colors towards the violet end of the color spectrum. This means that deer have the ability to see blues and even ultraviolet (UV) light, but are also sensitive to white and yellow light as well. So, the most ideal light colors for deer hunting include red, green and orange as deer see these colors as grey and are less startled by them."


"The study confirmed that deer possess two (rather than three as in humans) types of cone photopigments allowing limited color vision. The cone photopigment deer lack is the “red” cone, or the one sensitive to long wavelength colors such as red and orange. These colors aren’t invisible to deer, but rather are perceived differently. Deer are essentially red-green colorblind like some humans. Their color vision is limited to the short (blue) and middle (green) wavelength colors. As a result, deer likely can distinguish blue from red, but not green from red, or orange from red. Therefore, it appears that hunters would be equally suited wearing green, red, or orange clothing but disadvantaged wearing blue."


These resources match what I've read, but I am unsure if just because they can sense that they will be that bothered.

Deer are pretty smart (enough to be interesting), but a golden retriever is WAY smarter, I believe, for context.

For instance, if you poured bleach in the woods, deer could certain smell it, but bleach wasn't around during most of the deer's time of genetic adaptation, so are they now afraid of that spot because it screams "human"? I don't know. I think if they did that then they'd be afraid of every new smell and they would not be able to migrate or live. Modern times is a blip in time.

Same with light. Cave people that hunted deer didn't have headlamps. If it isn't instinctive, then I'm unsure if most deer are smart enough to figure out that it probably means human.


For me, walking safety is about x1,000,000 more important than scaring a deer, and where I hunt (off trail, etc) I would get hurt if I couldn't see precisely what is in front of me and what I am stepping on.
 
I use a red light for going in/out at dark so as to not spook deer like my white light would. My understanding is that Whitetail deer are red-green colorblind, so these colors appear gray to them.


"Although deer have more rods and can see much better at night, research indicates that deer do see some colors pretty well and mostly sense the colors towards the violet end of the color spectrum. This means that deer have the ability to see blues and even ultraviolet (UV) light, but are also sensitive to white and yellow light as well. So, the most ideal light colors for deer hunting include red, green and orange as deer see these colors as grey and are less startled by them."


"The study confirmed that deer possess two (rather than three as in humans) types of cone photopigments allowing limited color vision. The cone photopigment deer lack is the “red” cone, or the one sensitive to long wavelength colors such as red and orange. These colors aren’t invisible to deer, but rather are perceived differently. Deer are essentially red-green colorblind like some humans. Their color vision is limited to the short (blue) and middle (green) wavelength colors. As a result, deer likely can distinguish blue from red, but not green from red, or orange from red. Therefore, it appears that hunters would be equally suited wearing green, red, or orange clothing but disadvantaged wearing blue."

Certainly to each their own. Never noticed an iota of difference. I believe with all my soul sound does more hunters in than everything else combined
 
These resources match what I've read, but I am unsure if just because they can sense that they will be that bothered.

Deer are pretty smart (enough to be interesting), but a golden retriever is WAY smarter, I believe, for context.

For instance, if you poured bleach in the woods, deer could certain smell it, but bleach wasn't around during most of the deer's time of genetic adaptation, so are they now afraid of that spot because it screams "human"? I don't know. I think if they did that then they'd be afraid of every new smell and they would not be able to migrate or live.

Same with light. Cave people that hunted deer didn't have headlamps. If it isn't instinctive, then I'm unsure if most deer are smart enough to figure out that it probably means human.


For me, walking safety is about x1,000,000 more important than scaring a deer, and where I hunt (off trail, etc) I would get hurt if I couldn't see precisely what is in front of me and what I am stepping on.

I agree if you have a treacherous walk you should utilize whatever illumination you need to stay safe. I like to use reflective thumbtacks (that are green or brown) so my red light illuminates them just enough to see a path. To each his own.


To completely get sidetracked on the "smells" tangent. For 30 years in the woods I've been afraid to urinate anywhere near my stand. Recently, I've read some research stating that unless a deer has a way to associate the smell of human urine with humans, it doesn't matter. You could pee off your stand and theoretically it not spook deer! This is hard for my old brain to reprogram! :D
 
I wouldn't put scent even close. I normally find Sturgis intolerable, but he's dead on here. My success skyrocketed when I focused more on sound

I think Sturgis is spot on here. He has some great content. However, in my personal experience I've been busted by more deer smelling me than I have hearing me, when bowhunting. Either I wasn't setup properly or the wind shifted.
 
I agree if you have a treacherous walk you should utilize whatever illumination you need to stay safe. I like to use reflective thumbtacks (that are green or brown) so my red light illuminates them just enough to see a path. To each his own.


To completely get sidetracked on the "smells" tangent. For 30 years in the woods I've been afraid to urinate anywhere near my stand. Recently, I've read some research stating that unless a deer has a way to associate the smell of human urine with humans, it doesn't matter. You could pee off your stand and theoretically it not spook deer! This is hard for my old brain to reprogram! :D

yeah, I used to carry a gatorade bottle to pee in and tie it to my belt to walk out (like a weirdo) and would sometimes spill it

yuck

i've heard that after a short time, that all mammal urine breaks down to about a similar "stale pee" smell

i can see that unless you drank or ate something known to make it smell (super golden crisp cereal, coffee, asparagus...am I grossing anyone out yet?)
 
I think Sturgis is spot on here. He has some great content. However, in my personal experience I've been busted by more deer smelling me than I have hearing me, when bowhunting. Either I wasn't setup properly or the wind shifted.
I used to think the same. When youre busted by sound, you don't know you just spooked him. Mature bucks way way more often then not give no warning they've been spooked in my experience. No snorts or sounds. They quietly slip away gone forever.
Hunting in one of the top 3 pressured states
PA, I'm always left in awe when I see a mature buck. I actually get chills sometimes. Just because I look at him and think about how many bullets, arrows, sabots, cars and predators he had to avoid to get to where he's at. What a bad***.
They dont get there by hearing unnatural noises and sounds by sticking around to find out what it is. They gone.
Anyway this is a flashlight thread don't wanna get to off topic
 
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yeah, I used to carry a gatorade bottle to pee in and tie it to my belt to walk out (like a weirdo) and would sometimes spill it

yuck

i've heard that after a short time, that all mammal urine breaks down to about a similar "stale pee" smell

i can see that unless you drank or ate something known to make it smell (super golden crisp cereal, coffee, asparagus...am I grossing anyone out yet?)

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yeah, I used to carry a gatorade bottle to pee in and tie it to my belt to walk out (like a weirdo) and would sometimes spill it

yuck

i've heard that after a short time, that all mammal urine breaks down to about a similar "stale pee" smell

i can see that unless you drank or ate something known to make it smell (super golden crisp cereal, coffee, asparagus...am I grossing anyone out yet?)

Monster, Red Bull, coffee, or 5 Hour Energy...
 
Drink all those together and you won't need a flashlight...just urinate on the ground and you'll light the entire area up!!! :D

Been there. The running joke was that we didn't need a nightlight if we didn't flush haha. That was a night trip home from ATA after a full day of work to beat an ice storm...
 
never seen the point of the red glow. Love my zebralight. Insane battery life. The lumen range is good as it gets. Max brightness is perfect for looking for downed game. Lowest is so low your eyes have to adjust to see it. Perfect for climbing the tree just to see my hands. And you get to pick the color temp of the bumb. I use the cool white because it looks cool lol.
Red doesnt blind you when you turn it off. Your eyes don't take forever to adjust to night vision like a bright white light does. Good for finding something quick and going back to zero lights. We use them for night fishing on jetties a lot because the white lights blind you and everyone else fishing as soon as they turn off. Even if it's only 30-60 seconds it's still annoying.
 
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