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Jibber-Jabberin' about Carbon Fiber Bolts

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I am new at all of this.... and on the bigger side 6’4 and 260/280 with gear on.
Would you use these corben step? And what size? I guess the steel one will always work but can bet the weight factor.
Any information would great.
Thanks.
 
MenneDDR said:
I am new at all of this.... and on the bigger side 6’4 and 260/280 with gear on.
Would you use these corben step? And what size? I guess the steel one will always work but can bet the weight factor.
Any information would great.
Thanks.
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@MenneDDR hey man welcome! I’ve been doing some digging on these myself. At your size I would honestly steer clear until there is more info out there and some legit testing. If weight of your setup is an issue I’d look more into possibly a titanium bolt. Light weight and a good middle of the road option. At this point I’m sticking with the grade 8 bolts. I’m about 200-220 with all my gear on I’m late season and 5’10”. I can easily get to 20-23 ft with 10 steps. With you being 6’4” you can get some decent distance between bolts with out struggling so you might not have to carry as many. Just my humble opinion. Grade 8 bolts a super strong I’ll pack 13 with my EZ-KUT and that sits around 3-4lbs. Hardly noticeable when I put them in my water bottle pocket on my bag.
 
Prog27 said:
@MenneDDR hey man welcome! I’ve been doing some digging on these myself. At your size I would honestly steer clear until there is more info out there and some legit testing. If weight of your setup is an issue I’d look more into possibly a titanium bolt. Light weight and a good middle of the road option. At this point I’m sticking with the grade 8 bolts. I’m about 200-220 with all my gear on I’m late season and 5’10”. I can easily get to 20-23 ft with 10 steps. With you being 6’4” you can get some decent distance between bolts with out struggling so you might not have to carry as many. Just my humble opinion. Grade 8 bolts a super strong I’ll pack 13 with my EZ-KUT and that sits around 3-4lbs. Hardly noticeable when I put them in my water bottle pocket on my bag.
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https://rover.ebay.com/rover/0/0/0?mpre=https://www.ebay.com/ulk/itm/123653384152Here is a link to some titanium bolts.
 
MenneDDR said:
I am new at all of this.... and on the bigger side 6’4 and 260/280 with gear on.
Would you use these corben step? And what size? I guess the steel one will always work but can bet the weight factor.
Any information would great.
Thanks.
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I wouldn't use carbon fiber at that weight. Grade 8's are pretty universally acknowledged as safe, and titanium is considered a nice in-between.

Here's a link to a good conversation about risks associated with carbon bolts:

https://saddlehunter.com/community/...-the-month-is-dangerous-change-my-mind.13396/
 
Carbon fiber bolts are dangerous and should not be promoted as a safe climbing method for any age or body type. The one thing that disturbes me on this site is the race for finding the lightest method to climb a tree. This is suppose to be the year of safety for saddle hunter and when I see people taking items that were not meant to climb a tree ie. carbon rods, T screws, bolts in holes and promoting them I don’t feel we are living up to that. Many people do things that they MAY feel are safe but should keep those methods/ideas to themselves. I would hate to see someone new to saddle hunting (growing now more than ever) getting injured by ideas promoted by people who have no certification, safety testing on the devices they are personally using. Sorry NutterBuster nothing personal. Have a drink on me.
 
Yeah!!! And coffee at cups gas station and fast food joints should say CAUTION HOT!!! on the cup so nobody burns themselves...wait a minute....
 
Squirrels said:
Yeah!!! And coffee at cups gas station and fast food joints should say CAUTION HOT!!! on the cup so nobody burns themselves...wait a minute....
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Lol
PAhunter78 said:
Carbon fiber bolts are dangerous and should not be promoted as a safe climbing method for any age or body type. The one thing that disturbes me on this site is the race for finding the lightest method to climb a tree. This is suppose to be the year of safety for saddle hunter and when I see people taking items that were not meant to climb a tree ie. carbon rods, T screws, bolts in holes and promoting them I don’t feel we are living up to that. Many people do things that they MAY feel are safe but should keep those methods/ideas to themselves. I would hate to see someone new to saddle hunting (growing now more than ever) getting injured by ideas promoted by people who have no certification, safety testing on the devices they are personally using. Sorry NutterBuster nothing personal. Have a drink on me.
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I see where your coming from but that's why most if not all of these new ideas that get posted come with a disclaimer. Chances are if your saddle hunting your old enough to make your own life and death decisions. Nothing wrong with sharing innovation. No matter how smart or stupid it may be. Just my opinion
 
PAhunter78 said:
Carbon fiber bolts are dangerous and should not be promoted as a safe climbing method for any age or body type. The one thing that disturbes me on this site is the race for finding the lightest method to climb a tree. This is suppose to be the year of safety for saddle hunter and when I see people taking items that were not meant to climb a tree ie. carbon rods, T screws, bolts in holes and promoting them I don’t feel we are living up to that. Many people do things that they MAY feel are safe but should keep those methods/ideas to themselves. I would hate to see someone new to saddle hunting (growing now more than ever) getting injured by ideas promoted by people who have no certification, safety testing on the devices they are personally using. Sorry NutterBuster nothing personal. Have a drink on me.
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I think it’s a “given” that people are doing this stuff at their own risk. I’d say the majority of people on this forum have a good head on their shoulders. I don’t know if I see people flat out saying “oh go ahead (plug method in here) its PERFECTLY safe”. I see a lot of caveats on many things. Saddle hunting is really becoming main stream and so many DIYers are involved and climbing methods etc are a constant changing, flowing, moving thing in search of what works best for most. Let’s face it there just isnt much out there other than this forum on saddle hunting. Until there is a “Norm” this is what we have. With that said be safe guys use your brains and do your homework.
 
Squirrels said:
Yeah!!! And coffee at cups gas station and fast food joints should say CAUTION HOT!!! on the cup so nobody burns themselves...wait a minute....
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The horse is dead on that one. Being burned isn’t the same as being in a wheel chair or dead. Let’s take this serious.
 
Safety is taken very seriously on this site. Anytime an idea old or new pops up on here you always got more than a few people looking out for you letting you know if what your about to do is stupid. There's nothing you can do about someone who reads the first line of a thread and goes out and buys a set of carbon bolts before reading warnings about what could happen. That being said most people on here have their own idea of what's acceptably safe and what isn't. There's a lot of different approaches for what we do on here. Mistakes do happen and will continue to happen. But I think the new members who are new to saddle hunting are very well set up with useful information on safety that was learned through the trial and error conducted by the members of this site if they are willing to read through the information and not just look at pictures.
PAhunter78 said:
The horse is dead on that one. Being burned isn’t the same as being in a wheel chair or dead. Let’s take this serious.
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