Kite/Mantis

[angrybadger]

I am new to saddle hunting and have a question in regards to the mesh on both the kite/mantis saddles vs the kestrel. Does the mesh really have a factor in colder weather? I hunt in WI and I figure I can always dress for the weather when it starts to get cold but would love to hear if anyone has any advice or if the mesh material really isn’t a factor.

Thanks again for everyone posting in the forums. It’s been a great resource for new folks like myself.

 

[Deltahuntr]

Welcome from Louisiana. I currently hunt from a Kite and have never had an issue with the cold but in Louisiana we don’t generally see the same temperatures as y’all. If you search cold weather in a saddle subject in previous threads on saddlehunter there will be plenty of information.

 

[Mike Nutto]

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I am new to saddle hunting and have a question in regards to the mesh on both the kite/mantis saddles vs the kestrel. Does the mesh really have a factor in colder weather? I hunt in WI and I figure I can always dress for the weather when it starts to get cold but would love to hear if anyone has any advice or if the mesh material really isn’t a factor.

Thanks again for everyone posting in the forums. It’s been a great resource for new folks like myself.

either one you can add fleece like a liner

 

[angrybadger]

Welcome from Louisiana. I currently hunt from a Kite and have never had an issue with the cold but in Louisiana we don’t generally see the same temperatures as y’all. If you search cold weather in a saddle subject in previous threads on saddlehunter there will be plenty of information.

Thanks will do!

 

[angrybadger]

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either one you can add fleece like a liner

That’s a good idea! Thanks!

 

[EricS]

I’m considering a fleece saddle as an under quilt but being able to hang in it if wanted. I like the mesh because of warm weather. I can’t speak to cold weather as I think low 20s was as low as I saw in the tree last year. I don’t really know how much cooler they are in how weather but my mesh mantis was never damp from wearing the day before like my kestrel did.

 

[Patriot38]

I bought the SBW heater from tethrd and I really like it.


https://tethrdnation.com/product/sbw-heater/

 

[redsquirrel]

I sat in the single digits in my kite this year and I had no problems. I have never had a problem with my butt getting cold in any saddle. It's always my feet, hands or core that get cold first in that order.

 

[angrybadger]

I sat in the single digits in my kite this year and I had no problems. I have never had a problem with my butt getting cold in any saddle. It's always my feet, hands or core that get cold first in that order.[/
Thanks! I appreciate the response

 

[angrybadger]

I bought the SBW heater from tethrd and I really like it.


https://tethrdnation.com/product/sbw-heater/

I was looking at that as well, I’m glad to hear it works well with the saddle

 

[Adrena123]

13 yrs in a mesh saddle down to minus 6 degrees , My buttocks has never been cold. My two big toes are always the first to go, then my core.

 

[Nutterbuster]

I sat in the single digits in my kite this year and I had no problems. I have never had a problem with my butt getting cold in any saddle. It's always my feet, hands or core that get cold first in that order.

This is my experience as well. My butt doesn't get chilly in the cold or sweat in the heat. I even hunted in a fleece saddle a few times during early archery just to see.

Nuthin.

Butts apparently thermoregulate pretty well. Worst case, get yourself an under quilt and stick a chemical warmer back there.

Seriously, I've found that regulating your upper body does way more than regulating your lower body. I can get by with regular BDU-type pants and a pair of thermal underwear in the low teens, as long as I keep my core, head, and neck warm.

 

[redsquirrel]

13 yrs in a mesh saddle down to minus 6 degrees , My buttocks has never been cold. My two big toes are always the first to go, then my core.

Good point. My butt never got cold in my ambush either.

 

[boyne bowhunter]

From northern Michigan here. I hunted in the Mantis (mesh) all year up through Jan. 1st. As others have said, the saddle didn't cause me to have a cold butt even hunting in temperatures below zero. I wear enough layers to stay warm regardless and the saddle doesn't affect that. Feet are always the first thing to numb up on me.

 

[angrybadger]

Thanks everyone for the responses! Looking forward to getting out there. This forum has been a wealth of information for newcomers like me, super helpful and I learn more and more everyday. Thanks!!

 

[kmleach]

I sat in the single digits in my kite this year and I had no problems. I have never had a problem with my butt getting cold in any saddle. It's always my feet, hands or core that get cold first in that order.

This is my experience as well in our cold temps in Michigan late season

 

[angrybadger]

This is my experience as well. My butt doesn't get chilly in the cold or sweat in the heat. I even hunted in a fleece saddle a few times during early archery just to see.

Nuthin.

Butts apparently thermoregulate pretty well. Worst case, get yourself an under quilt and stick a chemical warmer back there.

Seriously, I've found that regulating your upper body does way more than regulating your lower body. I can get by with regular BDU-type pants and a pair of thermal underwear in the low teens, as long as I keep my core, head, and neck warm.

Perfect, I used a similar set up this year with BDU pants and a good pair of thermals and was good. Not having spent any time in saddle I wanted to make sure that didn’t change too much.

 

[Adrena123]

Good point. My butt never got cold in my ambush either.

I think it's the way we are built, ha ha ha

 

[redsquirrel]

I think it's the way we are built, ha ha ha

Haha! Maybe but that would make more sense if we were talking about my gut!

 

[Adrena123]

Haha! Maybe but that would make more sense if we were talking about my gut!

Haha! Maybe but that would make more sense if we were talking about my gut!

Yea, I have some extra weight there as well.
George's 3 yr old son asked me if I had a baby in there.