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Multi pin vs one pin

Bonzikilla said:
Thanks for the input brother, I'm shooting a Mathews tx5 60 lbs draw 28-inch draw and 400 grain arrows.
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Your bow will show you the way.

But I have Switchback XT and Legacy Mathews bows, and for me at 29” draw and mid to high 400grain arrows, I’m very comfortable to 25yds with one pin. I’ve been shooting DWs of 60-70lbs through the years. Your bow is much faster on paper.
 
Plebe said:
Your bow will show you the way.

But I have Switchback XT and Legacy Mathews bows, and for me at 29” draw and mid to high 400grain arrows, I’m very comfortable to 25yds with one pin. I’ve been shooting DWs of 60-70lbs through the years. Your bow is much faster on paper.
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Yea I think I’m going to go with a good one pin. So I can get rid of the sight clutter, I hunt a lot of thick cover and swamps so my shots are not far. So you have any recommendations for a one pin?
 
There are a bunch of vertical pin choices right now. Pick the one with the features you like the most. You can pick up used BG sights for fairly cheap and get a new scope for it.
 
Bonzikilla said:
Yea I think I’m going to go with a good one pin. So I can get rid of the sight clutter, I hunt a lot of thick cover and swamps so my shots are not far. So you have any recommendations for a one pin?
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Honestly, I don’t have a specific recommendation. I’d select for durability first. I see your bow has bridgelok. Not sure what’s available there and how secure bridgelok is.

With one pin, it’s all about making sure that pin doesn’t move. (Unless it‘s a slider system).
 
I've had good service out of HHA. The one I have now on my 60 pound bow is probably 10 years old and going strong (knock on wood).
 

How can I shoot deer accurately with only one fixed pin in my sight?!

This topic has come up a lot lately, so I figured I'd touch on a little more information. It has been covered many times, and I take zero credit for this concept. NOTE - if your bow shoots slower than 250fps, or you intend on shooting critters past 35 yards or so, you may want to consider...
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Plebe said:
Honestly, I don’t have a specific recommendation. I’d select for durability first. I see your bow has bridgelok. Not sure what’s available there and how secure bridgelok is.

With one pin, it’s all about making sure that pin doesn’t move. (Unless it‘s a slider system).
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yea I have been looking at dialed archery they have a nice bridge lock sight but$$$$
 
The dialed is a nice sight. I don’t love how they do the three pin vertical but it’s different for every one.
 
My favorite setup for shots 40 yards and in is a 2 pin fixed sight. I had Spot Hogg customize the pin setup (small fee) of a Grinder. The top pin is green and their largest pin size and it is in the horizontal position for the pins. The bottom pin is the next size down and red. It is in the bottom pin position so it is angled up. I did this on purpose so that the top pin draws the eye and you have to think about going for the lower pin. The top pin is set at 25 yards and the bottom is 40 yards. With a modern bow that shoots over 250 fps (mine is 265), you can easily shoot 0 to 40 yards with this. I don't like that when you slide a slider that you have to change your anchor point to center the sight housing in the peep.

It seems like everyone jumps from 1 pin to 3 or more and passes 2 pin right by. Also, the standard 10 yard pin increments were used back when bows were way slower and has stuck around (in part due to our base ten counting system).
 
raisins said:
My favorite setup for shots 40 yards and in is a 2 pin fixed sight. I had Spot Hogg customize the pin setup (small fee) of a Grinder. The top pin is green and their largest pin size and it is in the horizontal position for the pins. The bottom pin is the next size down and red. It is in the bottom pin position so it is angled up. I did this on purpose so that the top pin draws the eye and you have to think about going for the lower pin. The top pin is set at 25 yards and the bottom is 40 yards. With a modern bow that shoots over 250 fps (mine is 265), you can easily shoot 0 to 40 yards with this. I don't like that when you slide a slider that you have to change your anchor point to center the sight housing in the peep.

It seems like everyone jumps from 1 pin to 3 or more and passes 2 pin right by. Also, the standard 10 yard pin increments were used back when bows were way slower and has stuck around (in part due to our base ten counting system)
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Thanks man I'll have to do some research into 2 pin. Yea I hunt a lot of swamps and thick stuff so shots usually within 25 yards.
 
I’ve been using a single pin for decades. Within X distance (depending on you and your bow’s specific parameters) if the animal comes in within X distance, point and pull on that deers vital zone and there is no guesswork. The arrow will fall within the 8inch vital zone of the deer from 0 to Y yardage by just aiming on the “point” of the upper front leg. @kyler1945 linked his video on this same premise above.
 
woodsdog2 said:
I’ve been using a single pin for decades. Within X distance (depending on you and your bow’s specific parameters) if the animal comes in within X distance, point and pull on that deers vital zone and there is no guesswork. The arrow will fall within the 8inch vital zone of the deer from 0 to Y yardage by just aiming on the “point” of the upper front leg. @kyler1945 linked his video on this same premise above.
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Exactly. It is like sighting in a rifle like a 30-06 to be 2 inches high at 100 yards. At 20 yards it may be 2 inches low (depending on scope to bore height) and it is within the kill zone out to maybe 325 yards depending on the cartridge. It's the idea of maximum point-blank range. You can do the exact same with a bow, just at much shorter distances. Set up like that you don't have to think about the sights when an animal is coming in. Put the pin where you want it and contrate on making the shot, not worrying with setting or moving sights at the moment of truth.
 
One of the nuances of single pin is that it doesn’t preclude you from doing what you do with multiple pins - thinking. If you’re cool calm collected, have good spatial awareness, good at judging bowhunting distances, have demonstrated an ability to process a dynamic environment at rapid speed and adapt accordingly to the task at hand, good vision, the list goes on….. if you’re all these things, you can just aim an inch high or low with your single pin based on those factors, to be more precise.

It’s no different than multi pin in that regard. It just gives the optionality a multi pin doesn’t - when you melt down with a big deer close by - you don’t have to make a choice. Just point and shoot. Multi pin forces a choice.

The argument for multi pin sights inside of deer killing distances (30 yards and under) fall apart for anyone who isn’t capable of compensating with a single pin in the first place. Some people are just better than others at this stuff. For the rest of us, give me the simple button.
 
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