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Oplux and Beal jammy (NO KONG DUCK) question
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I run a 4 wrap prusik on my tether. Tried the klemheist first but like you mentioned it doesnt always want to stay dressed well and I actually got it to slip several feet when I was bouncing at ground level. Havent had any issues with the prusik so far. Currently using a mechanical ascender on the lineman's but will keep investigating ways that it could be an option with the beal.
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The extra length used to back up tether (after bridge connection) with an alpine butterfly loop - carabiner - belay loop of RCH.
I do not use ropeman or Kong duck. I do not want to risk main rope damage. If prusik fails (highly unlikely), then I have backup to RCH. If backup and or RCH fail, I guess it will be a personnel meeting I have with my maker I cannot postpone.
I’ve been doing the same while using the RM1 and will continue with a friction hitch. No reason not to back that single point up. The end of your tether needs to go somewhere, might as well put it to good use!
Depending on the tree configuration, I’ve also run a Prusik above an alpine butterfly or other stopper knot. Intent being to remove all slack from the system.
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From the aerohunter’s website, that is Everson 10mm. Everything I know about friction hitch cordage is that it needs to be smaller diameter than the main rope. Oplux is 8mm! That does not sound like a good configuration. Please be careful!
Thanks. And yes I’m aware of the recommendations for a smaller diameter cordage for your friction hitch but the combination bites well and releases easily. Had to do more wraps than I would use on one of my larger diameter arborist ropes. Will have to try out the yard where I can put more weight on it but it seems to be an eye to eye option that works.
I will second this, though i do agree your hitch cord is typically smaller than main line. I tried the 10mm eye to eye with a 4 or 5 wrap distel on the 8mm oplux and it worked fine. It worked better than some other 7mm i had around that i had once used on a muddy tether.
But earlier this week i finally got my order of 5mm Teufelberger Maxim Tech Cord in. I tied a distel hitch around the oplux and poachers knots to carabiner. At first it seemed like it was going to be too stiff to be reliable, but once i dressed it neatly and worked it on the rope a bit it was great. This seems like it will be a fantastic option. I will try to get some pics this evening.
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Nice, might have to try my 8mm VT on the OpLux.
The bluewater 8mm VT is rated for use down to 8mm as well. The material relationship is just as important as the actual diameter.
You've had a WHOLE weekend with it now, do you still like this setup?
Believe it or not i really didnt have much time to mess with it this weekend.
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Yo everyone, please be careful with your hitch cord diameters and tolerances. We’re all adults and can make our own decisions but man, sometimes this forum scares the dad in me. I really like talking to you all, and I don’t want everyone to be correct who says this is the year someone will die from saddle. I don’t want anything bad to happen to any of you! I’m not a certified climbing instructor or a professional climber; don’t take my word for it any more than you should “trust” your gear the way you use it over the pro/manufacturer recommendations. Just because it works and you haven’t seen any problems doesn’t mean you’re sharper than what decades, even centuries of experience recommends. You’re also all smart enough to do what you feel is best, and I don’t mean to insult that. Please be safe, y’all.
Great point. Unfortunately most of these accessory cords are sold as such. Even the good ones don’t necessarily have a manufacturer recommendation for friction hitches. Actually the only ones I have that do are sewn and sold as such. The BlueWater VT Prusik and sewn Prusiks have pretty clear instructions.
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The main recommendation...is test and test well. Everything is a rule of thumb, not an absolute.
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The 50cm Beal jammy I just ordered came as black and grey. For anybody wondering about other color from purple
What is the best knot config to tie in a kong mini 8 to the carabiner for a tender on a distel? I know it doesnt have to be load bearing but I am just wondering what is a clean way to tie in tender to biner.
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Yes, I’ve been using it on my linesman (see post #44) on my linesman belt for several hunts at height. The combination works great. Yes it’s a combination that is odd because the aero hunter eye to eye hitch cord is is larger than recommended. It’s listed as 10 mm but looks to be the same diameter as the 8 mm I bought from wild edge. As long as it the hitch cord and rope combination reliably grips and releases it’s all good. I use a 5 wrap VT friction knot. The combination is working great for me.
Those are poachers knots. I emailed teufelburger about using this cord in this manner and their reply was that it was not certified as a friction hitch.
I think it would likely be fine, but i an exploring other options and will not be using it at this time. I will go back to my predator and the aerohunter sewn eye prusik until i get something better for the 8mm oplux.
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