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Psssssttt - I have a secret

DaveT1963

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Ok time to lighten up. I was not going to post this idea but decided after getting PMs not to let a few loose cannons spoil my day.

This is not for everybody but hopefully a few will be able to use this.

now for the secret

BLUF - 1 aider method without the hassle of GIRTH HITCHING

I was always interested in a one aider climbing system and 1 stick methods but HATE GIRTH HITCHING AND MOVING. Especially for Elk hunting over a water hole out west. I never liked the Jim Stepp method in the dark So what I did was start using cranford T Screws. I put them in about 6 foot apart (this is my prep work I do advance). So 3 gets you to 20 foot easy - you can stretch it even further. If you do not want to prep then simply carry in those 3 T screws. everything still fits inside a cargo pocket easily. I keep them in my pack.

When I hunt a preset tree, I attach aider to first T Screw, climb up and attach my Lineman's belt and tree tether. Sit down in saddle, and remove the aider (which I have a small piece of paracord tied to from it to my saddle). Stand on the T-screw, put aider on next screw and up you go. I have done it with only a lineman's belt and just balanced but most might not like that. Using both a lineman's belt (I Use this primarily when climbing the aider) and the tether (only really use it to sit down and pull the aider). with preset screws it really is only moving an aider twice and you get to 20 foot. AND DID I MENTION NO GIRTH HITCHING

If you are freelancing, and do not have preset trees, its a little more trickier when screwing in screw 2 and 3 while standing on a T Screw - but what I do is turn the T screw parallel to ground before I stand on it. Then I use my tether more while I screw in next t screw. A little more difficult but very doable.

The biggest advantages are 1) no tools required to set screws - do not have to drill out a hole) 2) only 3 screw are needed most of my trees 3) this system fits in pocket so easy even with 3 T screws, 4) pretty lightweight %) I can always have this in my pack if I want to freelance and not drag around sticks BUT MOST OF ALL THERE IS NO GIRTH HITCHING, USING AIDERS/KNAIDERS, JUST PUT IT ON THE T SCREW AND CLIMB.

You could use a second aider to eliminate having to sit down to remove single aider.

I now preset ALL my camera with 1 T screw - I walks up, slap on the aider, and check my cameras that are 10 foot or higher.

This is not for everyone, and might actually require some practice to get really good at it - but all you need for a preset tree is 1 Aider - that's it. It does take some practice and time to get foot into loops close to tree - just be slow and methodical and you can do it. The great thing is that 1 aider and three T Screws to freelance and set up to 20' at anytime during the season - small price top pay to carry an aider and 3 T screws in a pack. For checking 10 foot high cameras it rocks.

SO THERE IT IS. PLEASE SEND CHECKS TO.......... wait I don't want everyone knowing my address - to many crazies out there now days.
 
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I had been thinking of how to use a 5 step aider with presets that I already had screw in steps on. Sounds like a good plan. Three steps left in a tree and carry in aider. Definitely would be able to prep more trees with the small amount of steps I already have.
 
I had been thinking of how to use a 5 step aider with presets that I already had screw in steps on. Sounds like a good plan. Three steps left in a tree and carry in aider. Definitely would be able to prep more trees with the small amount of steps I already have.

I wonder how an aider would do on a screw in step. I have a ton of screw in steps.
 
This is really similar to how I set my cameras. One screw in, one aider in the scouting pack. But I've never been above 10'. It's not a bad option but I never really practiced getting stealthy with it.
 
I think this is pretty much what I saw @Ted Bright do at saddlepalooza with cranford rope steps. I'm not an aider guy, but he did make it look pretty smooth and fast. I may have to tinker with it.

Yes, I love the Cranford/CMI etrier system. The system above seems good from a packability perspective but it seems slow. I can zip up a tree easily in just a few minutes and the weight/packability is excellent.

Not everyone has the same need for packability and timeliness of climb but those are critical to my system. As long as it works for you then it’s perfect.


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Not really slow? if trees are present it is hook and climb.... if not screw in 3 T screws in front of tree. I find that easier and faster than trying to wrap a step around a tree and tighten in the dark. I also find T screws far more stable than standard tree steps. Many ways to skin a cat.
 
I have been doing something similar, but using tree bolts instead of t screws...

Just pre drill 3 or 4 holes drilling slightly downward to prevent bolts from sliding out when climbing, and I'm good to go...
 
I have been doing something similar, but using tree bolts instead of t screws...

Just pre drill 3 or 4 holes drilling slightly downward to prevent bolts from sliding out when climbing, and I'm good to go...
When you do this, do you find it difficult to get on the bolt to place the next bolt? Im thinking about trying this method but with screw in steps I already have.

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When you do this, do you find it difficult to get on the bolt to place the next bolt? Im thinking about trying this method but with screw in steps I already have.

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It takes a little practice... you could just use two steps per level if you find that its more comfortable...

I might even try it with the tree bolts to make it simpler... takes no time at all to drill the holes...
 
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