Ropeman 1 Failure

[Nutterbuster]

I like to think people who can listen to a vehicles annoying beeping because the belt isn't buckled are a special kind of insane, never mind the increased risk of great bodily harm and/or death

I wish my truck was new enough to beep. It came out just after they stopped stuffing the seats with spanish moss.

 

[fawnzy]

All I can say is shizzl rope slider. I took my time and put my system together very carefully, as I had already taken a significant fall a few years back. The ropeman is designed to be used with a back up hitch.

If you look at what arborists and climbers use, we ought to be using the same. A little more expensive, maybe a little more time consuming but you cannot put a price on coming home to your loved ones. If you cannot afford the better mechanical gear, just stick with hitches. Tried and true. Wash your ropes and change out your ropes, tethers etc when you see any where. Pretty simple if you do not over think it..

Can you post a videos of how you set up and use the rope slider?
Thanks


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[dalton916]

I’m sorry but these numbers sound way off. You need to take into account impact force. Not trying to be jerk I just think there is a serious misunderstanding on this topic.

Well, give us some numbers then.

I simply went to a climbing website and use their calculator.

 

[g2outdoors]

I like to think people who can listen to a vehicles annoying beeping because the belt isn't buckled are a special kind of insane, never mind the increased risk of great bodily harm and/or death

I wear mine about 99.9% of the time. But every once in a while I'll drive a short ways without it. My brother is one of those people that can ride around with the beeping. It drives me insane.

 

[boyne bowhunter]

I like to think people who can listen to a vehicles annoying beeping because the belt isn't buckled are a special kind of insane, never mind the increased risk of great bodily harm and/or death

To be honest I wear mine 99% of the time on the road. That said, I did google the cheat code to shut off the dinger because I don't generally wear it when on the 2 tracks in the woods and that binging drives me crazy.

 

[bj139]

I just bought a Ropeman 1 for my lineman's belt. I will use a prusik for my tether.

 

[d_rek]

To be honest I wear mine 99% of the time on the road. That said, I did google the cheat code to shut off the dinger because I don't generally wear it when on the 2 tracks in the woods and that binging drives me crazy.

I get it. I might need to do some googling myself... honestly I can live with the threat of great injury or death but the beeping in my ram 1500 is bad enough to make me want to drive the truck into the nearest ditch lol.

 

[BenG]

Well, give us some numbers then.

I simply went to a climbing website and use their calculator.

I gotcha, yeah it was probably assuming dynamic rope then. I wouldn’t say there is an industry accepted calculator on this, or if there is I haven’t found it and I’m no physicist myself. Petzl had one they took down that was supposed to be pretty good. Bottom line is you need something that takes into account static rope or that you can enter your ropes %elongation. I don’t know the accuracy of the calculator below but there are a couple others like this on junk websites. I don’t think anyone wants to put their name behind them for obvious reasons. The best thing you can do is read up and understand the concept and don’t push any limits. A 10’ fall on static rope could easily become deadly.

http://ferforge.tripod.com/Srt002.htm

 

[Apex7]

This has been beat to death. Like I said before about this subject if you don't trust it don't use it. It's your call.

 

[fawnzy]

I’m using a shunt on my tether


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[denots]

To be honest I wear mine 99% of the time on the road. That said, I did google the cheat code to shut off the dinger because I don't generally wear it when on the 2 tracks in the woods and that binging drives me crazy.

Just get out the truck, Buckle the seatbelt, and then get back in the truck. You're not wearing a seatbelt, but it is buckled so the truck shuts up

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[skyjacker]

Here ya go.
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07PG6Z89B/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_dd-fDbTH2N32D

Stop the beep and crack a beer as you drive

 

[dlist777]

I really enjoy reading about safety and the gear we choose to use. I have confidence in the ropeman because of 1 fact...

Of everything I've read, there is not a single post of anyone expierienceing a failure with a ropeman 1 on this forum. If you have had one please let me know.

Someone once said...the proof is in the pudding.

Maybe they just died and stopped posting

 

[DaveT1963]

There will always be a few idiots that'll figure out a way to kill themselves with most anything. They're among us, we celebrate them annually with a Darwin Award.

Keep your tether tight and you shouldn't have a problem.

 

[dalton916]

I know a member on here that had a “descending incident” with a Ropeman. A Ropeman 1, I believe it was. Had a little tension on the line when he released the Ropeman to lengthen his LB. luckily he released it and it grab the rope again before he thudded on the ground.

That’s the very reason that I won’t use one; for me that’s a two handed operation for me to have confidence in it. A prussic is one handed for me so that’s what I prefer.

 

[Bwhana]

I get the safety focus and awareness, but it is sometimes overblown on here. I am 100x safer right now, even with my "sketchy" ropeman or cobra buckle and webbing tether than I have been most of my hunting life. Compared to sending a 10+ ft gap jump on my mountain bike, the odds of failures are astronomically small in the tree and the injuries can be equal or worse on the bike. When compared to my earlier years climbing with gaffs and zero LB or safety ropes, this is off the chart on safety. I have used climbing stands starting with a Baker and all the way to my 12lb X-Stand for the past 35 years without ever wearing a safety harness, but now I am attached the whole time. I know that we have to use something as a standard for safety and the climbing ratings provide that, but 95% of the time what we do cannot, or at least should not, come close to the falls and stresses experienced in real rock climbing. Reality says that our standards can be less than those stated for climbing, but there aren't enough of us to create one special. I'll keep using my ropeman 1, thanks!

John H.

 

[dlist777]

I feel like the ropeman is good in place of the prussik on a linemans belt because (1) it's easier than a prussik to operate 1 handed and (2) it's not much of a safety compromise on a linemans belt. The LB needs adjustment throughout the climb and the prussik is hard to adjust one handed when you've got it loaded. The LB is not a fall arrest system...you're not going to have a bunch of slack and rely on your LB to stop you....you're generally easy back on it and slowly applying pressure.. very similar to it's intended use as an ascender. So big improvement in ease of use but not much safety compromise.

However, I wont use it on the tether. That is a fall arrest. You may have slack build up unintentionally. Also, you're not adjusting it constantly so it's not a big advantage vs the more reliable prussik....one handed adj is not so important on the tether. So small improvement in ease if use and bigger safety compromise.

Just my opinion....

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[Ontariofarmer]

I have been trying the new tribes prussic tender. It moves slick and easy. No chance of cutting a rope. However you can release it if you grab the prussic by accident. A stopper knot or a figure 8 back to your tether carabiner prevents a disaster
I did grab it while practicing and pulling myself up by my tether using @Cain method it caused a release of the prussic
So we practice at low heights to discover the good and bad about different equipment
I may give this a go this fall. Mainly to prevent noise when one sticking.

Even a prussic could fail if inadvertently released without a stopper knot


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[Country]

I've been using the ropeman 1 backed up by a prussic on my tether. I'm considering just going to the prussic for reasons stated above (don't usually adjust it once I'm all set up.). Slight concern I have is the 6mm prussic cord...weakest link and that's all I'd have. I kind of like the peace of mind of knowing if my ropeman did fail, I'd have the prussic to hopefully save me from a fall. Thoughts?

 

[kyler1945]

I've been using the ropeman 1 backed up by a prussic on my tether. I'm considering just going to the prussic for reasons stated above (don't usually adjust it once I'm all set up.). Slight concern I have is the 6mm prussic cord...weakest link and that's all I'd have. I kind of like the peace of mind of knowing if my ropeman did fail, I'd have the prussic to hopefully save me from a fall. Thoughts?

Go to an 11mm tether and 8mm prussic