saddle scent elimination

[Homebrew454]

I believe that you guys hunting big woods face more challenges than farm country and suburban hunters face.
I think odor busts fall into different categories, though.

Odors that are odd or something a deer has never encountered will most likely attract his attention and maybe even cause him to depart. But I'm not sure a bust like that has any long term impact on that deer. I put that type of odor bust in an entirely different class than when a deer gets a full nose of true human odor at close range, high humidity and light wind. You know, that type of bust that puts the deer into full panic mode.

Either way, I don't want to assume a deer is gonna react in any specific way. I want to be as low impact in every aspect that I can.

Completely agree with you. I try to cut my scent as much as possible.



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[DC10]

Exactly, I used to be a scent control nut and now I am not. I have seen no difference in the amount of mature bucks I see. I say everyone do what works for you.

In all honesty, this would have probably been the best way to respond the first time. Making an absolute statement in that “no amount of scent control will save you” seems to be the opposite of “everyone do what works for you.”

And for the record, I take some scent control precautions (I’m not as systematic and thorough as John) and play the wind.

 

[Exhumis]

So here's what I did.
Washed it with scent free detergent, pick your poison. Then I sprayed it down with hydrogen peroxide/baking soda mix and hung it outside to let it air dry. I left it outside for a good week to let the wind, sun and natural scents cook off the chemical smells, then did what @parkersdad did and stored it in a scent free tote but with some natural earth scent wafers. I do that with all my gear. About all you can do. It'll pick up some scent from you at some point.

 

[parkersdad]

In all honesty, this would have probably been the best way to respond the first time. Making an absolute statement in that “no amount of scent control will save you” seems to be the opposite of “everyone do what works for you.”

And for the record, I take some scent control precautions (I’m not as systematic and thorough as John) and play the wind.

I still stick by my statement. I hunt in the south. When walking to my tree stand Saturday afternoon it was 95° with high humidity. I don’t care what scent regimen you take you better play the wind. When I hunt Michigan I can see using more scent products because it is usually cool. The south is a different beast than the Midwest. However everyone has a different opinion but I would never trust any kind of scent program to a deer being downwind from me. And for the record I said nothing wrong. I said what I believe. Then I was told I’m a liar. I don’t take too kindly to that. I wish the moderators would close this thread. Everyone has an opinion and no one person is right.

 

[DC10]

A lie is too strong a word. It is a disagreement.
A lie equals purposeful misleading.

And I practice scent control. So no disagreement with scent reduction


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I wouldn’t have used that same terminology.

However, I do think it is important to note that John was not evaluating him as a person, but his statement.

A statement can be a lie without the person being a liar. People (including myself) parrot so many things that we’ve heard someone else say that we end up believing are true. If we continue to share that opinion with others as if it is true, then I do think those statements (not necessarily the person) can be accurately called lies (the opposite of truth).

I know that John is very serious about his scent control regimen and so, when someone makes an absolute statement with no caveats or nuances, I can see why he would say that it was a “blatant lie.”

At the end of the day, when it comes to deer hunting, I don’t think it’s beneficial to make absolute statements to others as if our way is the only way ( such as “no amount of scent control will save you”).

I, personally, also would not have labeled his statement a “blatant lie.”

Both statements, rightly or wrongly, can potentially come across as arrogant and unhelpful.

Hopefully, we can all learn something from this without making any unnecessary judgments moving forward.

 

[DC10]

I still stick by my statement. I hunt in the south. When walking to my tree stand Saturday afternoon it was 95° with high humidity. I don’t care what scent regimen you take you better play the wind. When I hunt Michigan I can see using more scent products because it is usually cool. The south is a different beast than the Midwest. However everyone has a different opinion but I would never trust any kind of scent program to a deer being downwind from me. And for the record I said nothing wrong. I said what I believe. Then I was told I’m a liar. I don’t take too kindly to that. I wish the moderators would close this thread. Everyone has an opinion and no one person is right.

I’m not even disagreeing with you that your statement may be completely true for where you are hunting. But that doesn’t make it true for everyone else considering everyone’s climate is not the same as yours (as you eventually noted).

FYI, I hunt the south as well and I personally lean more your way when it comes to scent control.

I just don’t think making absolute statements in the context of deer hunting is helpful because it’s not going to be true for everyone because no one has the exact same set of circumstances.

Good luck to you this year!

 

[Jmseeker21]

I love how this thread was about washing a saddle lol

 

[Jefferson10940]

I think the member got his answer inside all this scent control non sense. Gonna close this, PM each other and argue there boys A good healthy discussion can be had privately. Can not wait until we start seeing deer with holes in them