ScentLok base layer

[BassBoysLLP]

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Don't be afraid to make your own undergarments too. You can do a lot a tub full of water and some coconut powdered activated carbon.

How do you dry your clothes after soaking them in water and carbon powder? Seems like if you hang them out to dry they will just adsorb outside odors and lose their capacity to suck up your scent. But if you dry them in the dryer, doesn't all the carbon powder flake off and fly out your dryer vent?

I hope you don't think I'm trolling - I am very interested in this coconut activated carbon. Just trying to figure out how best to use it and maximize its effectiveness.

Thanks much,
Drew

You don't lose a lot of adsorptive capacity by line drying. Even so, I made a dry box to speed things up.

Here are a couple videos to give you some more ideas.

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[g2outdoors]

That second video is the craziest thing I've ever seen. I cannot imagine going through that process every time I went in the woods. Do you guys get into this level of detail with your scent control? Is it just me or is this way too obsessive?

 

[d_rek]

That second video is the craziest thing I've ever seen. I can not imagine going through that process every time I went in the woods. Do you guys get into this level of detail with your scent control? Is it just me is this way too obsessive?

Dr. Jim is pretty obsessive about his deer hunting. Met him at QDMA thing a year or two ago. Super knowledgeable guy, comes off as a huge know-it-all and a bit of an a-hole if i'm being honest.

He's a HUGE QDMA guy and is pretty much working over his 40 acres every day of the year for optimal habitat. He also consults and does seminars for managing land for whitetail habitat.

He's had some awesome results with holding deer on his property and also attracting some nice bucks from neighboring parcel into the habitat during the rut.

Would I go into that level of detail? I don't know. I'm hardly doing 'just enough' for scent control but at the same time i don't live and breath deer hunting and QDMA like this guy does. I also don't necessarily look at as a matter of dedication rather it's a matter of time and budget. Some people have the time and budget to fund and go through that entire process. Others simply don't, or wont. Guess at the end of the day it's all up to you.

 

[g2outdoors]

It seems like overkill. Such an obsessive scent control regiment would suck all the fun out of hunting for me. Was he serious about not stepping where you stepped yesterday because the residual scent from yesterday's boot print will "contaminate" today's boot? That is outrageous.

 

[BassBoysLLP]

It seems like overkill. Such an obsessive scent control regiment would suck all the fun out of hunting for me. Was he serious about not stepping where you stepped yesterday because the residual scent from yesterday's boot print will "contaminate" today's boot? That is outrageous.

Yes. Nuts, aye?

He was a biologist in his prior life. You can tell he spent a ton of time in a clean room environment. Many of his principles are are based on fundamental practices in a clean room to reduce contamination.

 

[redsquirrel]

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Don't be afraid to make your own undergarments too. You can do a lot a tub full of water and some coconut powdered activated carbon.

Thoughts on making our own scentlok style garments using activated carbon cloth? http://www.buyactivatedcharcoal.com/act ... iber_cloth

Is the coconut powdered carbon cheaper? Is that why you're using it like that?

 

[BassBoysLLP]

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Don't be afraid to make your own undergarments too. You can do a lot a tub full of water and some coconut powdered activated carbon.

Thoughts on making our own scentlok style garments using activated carbon cloth? http://www.buyactivatedcharcoal.com/act ... iber_cloth

Is the coconut powdered carbon cheaper? Is that why you're using it like that?

The pore size distribution in coconut PAC is excellent for adsorption of volatile and semi-volatile organics. Plus you start with virgin carbon adsorptive capacity. This is significant.

I work with activated carbon on a daily basis. I am a chemical engineer by trade. We have a difficult time regenerating carbon to its virgin capacity even when we operated our reactors at 240 deg C at elevated pressure.

Don't get me wrong. Scentlok works. Its adsorptive capacity is limited, but it is convenient and non messy. Scentlok also tends to be a little cooler in the warmer months since you arent dealing with the additonal heat of adsorption that comes with wearing activated carbon clothing.

I personally like the virgin layers closest to my skin. Scentlok on top.

 

[g2outdoors]

He was a biologist in his prior life. You can tell he spent a ton of time in a clean room environment. Many of his principles are are based on fundamental practices in a clean room to reduce contamination.

I'm sure he's very smart and great at what he does. If he enjoys his scent regiment, which he obviously does, more power to him. Keep doing it. I've found that anything that boosts your confidence - newer faster bow, fancy camo, top of the line gear, better scent control - is a good thing. Higher confidence means you'll sit longer and spend more time in the woods.

 

[redsquirrel]

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Wow. Great, thanks for that info. Just got to watch the first video and it definitely gave me some ideas. I really like the larger granules of activated carbon in the tubs for storage.

Some questions:
Are you using a fine powder for your undergarments?
Where are you getting your activated carbon? (first link that came up, http://www.buyactivatedcharcoal.com/)
I am always concerned with my scentlok wearing out. Any ideas on at home methods we could use to test the effectiveness of our scentlok? Maybe I can drive down to rutgers to have them test it for me :lol: http://www.scentlok.com/wp-content/uplo ... g_Data.pdf

I have some more questions that I can't remember but I'll post them when I do. Thanks again for posting this. I'm a scientist as well so it blows my mind when people just dismiss this stuff.

Don't be afraid to make your own undergarments too. You can do a lot a tub full of water and some coconut powdered activated carbon.

Thoughts on making our own scentlok style garments using activated carbon cloth? http://www.buyactivatedcharcoal.com/act ... iber_cloth

Is the coconut powdered carbon cheaper? Is that why you're using it like that?

The pore size distribution in coconut PAC is excellent for adsorption of volatile and semi-volatile organics. Plus you start with virgin carbon adsorptive capacity. This is significant.

I work with activated carbon on a daily basis. I am a chemical engineer by trade. We have a difficult time regenerating carbon to its virgin capacity even when we operated our reactors at 240 deg C at elevated pressure.

Don't get me wrong. Scentlok works. Its adsorptive capacity is limited, but it is convenient and non messy. Scentlok also tends to be a little cooler in the warmer months since you arent dealing with the additonal heat of adsorption that comes with wearing activated carbon clothing.

I personally like the virgin layers closest to my skin. Scentlok on top.

 

[BassBoysLLP]

I use powder for my undergarments. Carbon can be bought on ebay, amazon, or the link you provided.

I can think of many complicated tests, but nothing simple and quantitative. You will have to rely on qualitative observations unless you want to dive into something more analytical.

 

[redsquirrel]

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I use powder for my undergarments. Carbon can be bought on ebay, amazon, or the link you provided.

I can think of many complicated tests, but nothing simple and quantitative. You will have to rely on qualitative observations unless you want to dive into something more analytical.

Ok cool. Thanks for your help!

 

[redsquirrel]

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I use powder for my undergarments. Carbon can be bought on ebay, amazon, or the link you provided.

I can think of many complicated tests, but nothing simple and quantitative. You will have to rely on qualitative observations unless you want to dive into something more analytical.

I ordered some granular sized carbon for my storage containers, and that was pretty reasonably priced at about $25 for 5 lbs. What are you paying for the powdered carbon and how much of it are you using? I'm seeing like $40 for 1 lb and I have no idea how much I would even need.

 

[BassBoysLLP]

About $15 a pound plus shipping. Its only about $3/pound when purchased in very large quantities. A pound goes a long way and I generally use a couple tablespoons in a tub to treat my undergarments. If you are really frugal you can let the remaining carbon settle, decant the supernatant, dry, and recover the unused carbon. Even re-ash it at 550 degrees in your oven to ash anything that may have adsorbed during the process.

 

[redsquirrel]

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About $15 a pound plus shipping. Its only about $3/pound when purchased in very large quantities. A pound goes a long way and I generally use a couple tablespoons in a tub to treat my undergarments. If you are really frugal you can let the remaining carbon settle, decant the supernatant, dry, and recover the unused carbon. Even re-ash it at 550 degrees in your oven to ash anything that may have adsorbed during the process.

Ok cool. Thanks again!

 

[g2outdoors]

I just pulled the trigger on some ScentLok:
Savana Quickstrike Coverall: http://www.scentlok.com/shop/produc...strike-coverall/savanna-quickstrike-coverall/
Head Hunter Touch Tech Gloves: http://www.scentlok.com/shop/products/accessories/gloves/head-hunter-touch-tech-glov/
& a Carbon Adsorber Pad for my airtight container: http://www.scentlok.com/shop/products/accessories/storage/carbon-adsorber/

The plan is to use this year round as an outer layer in the early-mid season and a mid-layer during the late season. I saved about $100 buying everything on Promotive.com

 

[d_rek]

I just pulled the trigger on some ScentLok:
Savana Quickstrike Coverall: http://www.scentlok.com/shop/produc...strike-coverall/savanna-quickstrike-coverall/
Head Hunter Touch Tech Gloves: http://www.scentlok.com/shop/products/accessories/gloves/head-hunter-touch-tech-glov/
& a Carbon Adsorber Pad for my airtight container: http://www.scentlok.com/shop/products/accessories/storage/carbon-adsorber/

The plan is to use this year round as an outer layer in the early-mid season and a mid-layer during the late season. I saved about $100 buying everything on Promotive.com

Nice. I've been eyeying the coveralls for a few seasons now just haven't pulled the trigger for various reasons. I did piece together a 2-piece savannah bibs and jacket set from sierratradingpost.com and scentlok.com. Should be a great early season set and should work OK as a mid-layer until it gets really cold.

I like the lightweight shooter gloves but also have the headhunter gloves. I'll be giving them a go this season to see how I like them.

 

[g2outdoors]

everything was 40% off on Promotive.com. Not too bad. I like the coverall setup because it included the face mask and head covering. That's another $60-$80 for those two items.

 

[g2outdoors]

Now that I've had a chance to check out the Savanna Coveralls I have to say: these things are SWEET!

If the carbon technology works like it claims, and like you guys say it does, they are the perfect solution. The built in head/neck/face covering in the coveralls is spot on. With gloves, every inch of my body except my feet will be covered with ScentLok. I'll drape the pant legs over my rubber boots and tie the ankle holes with the included draw strings.

I've also taken the necessary steps to make sure all my other gear is completely scent free and stored in an air tight container with a ScentLok carbon adsorber pad. All that's left to do is get dressed in the field and use the scent free spray/wipes for last minute stuff.

I've invested the time and money and done my homework. Here's to hiding from ol' mossyhorn's nose.

 

[d_rek]

I just saw the last post from this thread today.

I finally dropped the hammer on some of scentloks 2015 gear (Covert Deluxe). What a step up from some of their previous years stuff! Fit and finish is excellent, and the design features are great too. I'm going to be closely watching for the 2015 coveralls to go on sale in the future...

Glad you're liking your gear though. I believe it truly helps to have hunting garments you both have confidence in and feel comfortable wearing.

 

[g2outdoors]

So far I haven't been winded that I know of. I haven't had any mature deer in range, but the little ones have all been fooled. Granted that's not all that hard to do.