John RB
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Fyi, a friend alerted me about this thread. I have trouble getting my notifications on this forum ... sometimes I get them and sometimes I don't.I just had a shoulder replacement so I can’t really practice yet. I’ve been watching a bunch of videos, and I’m ready to climb and seamlessly rappel down……I think
I cannot find any videos showing how to setup at height. I’m pretty sure I won’t hunt from my SRT, but rather tie in a separate short tether…..or will I? What about a platform? I’m thinking of a monster white oak right now that tells me I won’t need a platform at all. Once I get 15’ up, I’ve got plenty of places to set my feet. I’ve seen @John RB get in a crotch no platform, and nothing else I remember. Even climbing videos show the climb, but few details….again, cept Johns. I’ll only climb presets and look forward to that as well. I’m sure every setup would be different, but is anything typical?
1. By some coincidence, the same day you made this post, i released this video. I have no objection to using a platform. It's just a lot to carry. I do prefer a tree with a branch in the right location.
2. We have since tried adding a couple of steps from an ROS system on either side of the platform and it worked great.
3. With a bad shoulder, you probably won't want to do anything that requires putting your arm over your head. But you can climb MRS quite reasonably with just one leg. The easiest way I can think of is with a short Garda hitch footloop to pull down on the moving side. I would recommend setting that up as an auto tending system. Let me know if you need help.
There are some comments about complexity in the thread. I agree nobody should do anything that's too complex for them. However, it's not a fair comparison to say JRB Doubled Rope is more complex than MRS/DRT unless we make the MRS system as safe as JRB. Remember, JRB has redundancy for your friction hitches, nor do we tie tie our fricion hitches in the woods. If a hitch wasn't tied properly or breaks or slides or whatever, you do not fall. In rappel, we also have redundancy. In MRS there is a single point of failure in the friction hitch. And rappel requires more skill. For example, many a DRT climber has experienced the phenomena whereby their rappel is getting a little quick and instead of relaxing the amount of pull on the friction hitch, the instinctively pull harder and they go for a ride. Some call it a suislide. I climbed MRS/DRT for 12 years. If I thought it was better, i would still be doing it and JRB never would have evolved. Lastly, we can take a JRB system and without tying any new knots, we can use it for SRT or DRT. But why would we? The only time i have used my JRB system as an MRS system is the time I left my Garda hitch footloop in the truck and showed up at my tree for a hunt without it. Of course, that is not a problem. We just pull on one side and we are on an MRS system. Minus the redundancy. I have designed MRS systems with a comparable level of redundancy, meaning that if your friction hitch failed, you don't fall, but of course, it's going to be more complex.
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