Im thinking ablut switching up my setup a bit. I use the 11mm predator rope now with 2 ropemans an have thought about going to 8mm with ropemans. I have to build a second tether an belt since my girlfriend is thinking about giving deer hunting a shot. I already have another Kestrel anyhow. So this wont cost me too much lol an thought i might see if this smaller rope will be alittle more pack able.