After hunting with the Mantis a full season and it being my first year saddle hunting I've learned a couple things. First the Tethrd Mantis is an awesome saddle. If your a leaner, no problems. If your a sitter like me well I tend to slide out the bottom and continually have to pull the saddle back down. I'm going to remedy this by incorporating a sit-drag to make it more comfortable. Just throwing this out there but if tethrd designs another saddle it would be great if they fix this problem. But it still is a great product.