I wanted to thank all the members here for providing me the information I needed to 'jump back in the saddle'. I have owned saddles before - a tree suit(or was it tree seat?) and Guidos web. Killed deer out of both but each had shortcomings that caused me to go back to tree stands. Due to the creative ideas shared on this site that 'fixed' some of the shortcomings I'd experienced in previous saddles - and the great saddles on the market now - I have once again made the plunge and will be saddle hunting this fall. I ordered a Mantis saddle and predator platform and can't wait to get them and start my 'training'. Special thanks to my friends Jimmy Dorris and Warren Wommack for helping me make up my mind. I'm looking forward to using the saddle and posting here on this forum. Thanks again guys for all the information you have provided on this site!