Timbertrail E-bike

DC10 · Apr 29, 2020

Anyone here familiar with Timbertrail ebikes? Met them at a hunting expo in Raleigh, NC. From what I understand, they are the only folks with a 2-wheel drive bike. Of course, you can pedal, pedal-assist, run one-wheel or two-wheel drive. It seems like a much cheaper alternative to a Rambo bike that equals (or potentially) surpasses it in performance because it has 2-wheel drive capability.

TimberTrail E-bikes

Quality fat tire electric bike that you can ride anywhere, from running errands in town to traversing fields, trails, and mountain streams.

www.timbertrail.bike

Definitely want to get an ebike but don't want to break the bank anymore than needed. Would love to get feedback from anyone who has an e-bike and has used it in steep terrain. Is having a powerful (rambo-like) motor or 2 wheel drive a necessity to get in and out of steep terrain? I'm more than willing to go with a sub $2k bike if it will adequately meet my needs. And although I don't solely hunt steep terrain, I do hunt it throughout the season.

Also, do any of you ride your bike down steep terrain with timber? Just curious if you're able to do so without picking up substantial speed.

Newhunter1 · Apr 29, 2020

Ask how long would the battery last using two wheels to get up steep hills? I have the Quietkat ambush 750. I can go up any hill so far that I’ve encountered. While QK says the battery will last 19 miles, true riding through mud, mire and crazy roads says 8-12 miles. I even bought a second battery. Sub-2000 and good miles on the battery then that’s a no brainer

DC10 · Apr 29, 2020

Newhunter1 said:
Ask how long would the battery last using two wheels to get up steep hills? I have the Quietkat ambush 750. I can go up any hill so far that I’ve encountered. While QK says the battery will last 19 miles, true riding through mud, mire and crazy roads says 8-12 miles. I even bought a second battery. Sub-2000 and good miles on the battery then that’s a no brainer

I know that at top speed (not specified as hilly terrain or on 2-wheel drive), the battery lasts roughly 28 miles. I’ll inquire about the rest. The Timbertail isn't sub $2k. It's around $3300 retail and $2750 when on sale. I was just saying that I'm willing to get a cheaper (sub $2k) ebike if it will adequately handle hills and have a good battery life.

Thanks for the feedback!

DanO · Apr 29, 2020

Rambo has their Krusader 500 X2WD but it is dual 500W motors, not dual 750W.

Apex7 · Apr 29, 2020

DC10 said:
Anyone here familiar with Timbertrail ebikes? Met them at a hunting expo in Raleigh, NC. From what I understand, they are the only folks with a 2-wheel drive bike. Of course, you can pedal, pedal-assist, run one-wheel or two-wheel drive. It seems like a much cheaper alternative to a Rambo bike that equals (or potentially) surpasses it in performance because it has 2-wheel drive capability.

TimberTrail E-bikes

Quality fat tire electric bike that you can ride anywhere, from running errands in town to traversing fields, trails, and mountain streams.

www.timbertrail.bike

Definitely want to get an ebike but don't want to break the bank anymore than needed. Would love to get feedback from anyone who has an e-bike and has used it in steep terrain. Is having a powerful (rambo-like) motor or 2 wheel drive a necessity to get in and out of steep terrain? I'm more than willing to go with a sub $2k bike if it will adequately meet my needs. And although I don't solely hunt steep terrain, I do hunt it throughout the season.

Also, do any of you ride your bike down steep terrain with timber? Just curious if you're able to do so without picking up substantial speed.

Bolton ebikes has a all wheel drive bike they one one for awhile. Motor in the front and back wheel.

Apex7 · Apr 29, 2020

DC10 said:
Anyone here familiar with Timbertrail ebikes? Met them at a hunting expo in Raleigh, NC. From what I understand, they are the only folks with a 2-wheel drive bike. Of course, you can pedal, pedal-assist, run one-wheel or two-wheel drive. It seems like a much cheaper alternative to a Rambo bike that equals (or potentially) surpasses it in performance because it has 2-wheel drive capability.

TimberTrail E-bikes

Quality fat tire electric bike that you can ride anywhere, from running errands in town to traversing fields, trails, and mountain streams.

www.timbertrail.bike

Definitely want to get an ebike but don't want to break the bank anymore than needed. Would love to get feedback from anyone who has an e-bike and has used it in steep terrain. Is having a powerful (rambo-like) motor or 2 wheel drive a necessity to get in and out of steep terrain? I'm more than willing to go with a sub $2k bike if it will adequately meet my needs. And although I don't solely hunt steep terrain, I do hunt it throughout the season.

Also, do any of you ride your bike down steep terrain with timber? Just curious if you're able to do so without picking up substantial speed.

I have a Radrover with an upgrade controller from Bolton e-bikes. Now my 750watt hub-drive is a 1600 watt animal. You don't need all wheel drive. Rambo bikes are really nice they are mid-drive and climb really well. My friend has the 1000 watt Rambo and I climb hills just like he does with my updated version of my Radrover. Do some research but you can't go wrong with a Rambo if your leaning that way. But I would definitely get a bike with a derailleur and shifter.

DC10 · Apr 29, 2020

Apex7 said:
I have a Radrover with an upgrade controller from Bolton e-bikes. Now my 750watt hub-drive is a 1600 watt animal. You don't need all wheel drive. Rambo bikes are really nice they are mid-drive and climb really well. My friend has the 1000 watt Rambo and I climb hills just like he does with my updated version of my Radrover. Do some research but you can't go wrong with a Rambo if your leaning that way. But I would definitely get a bike with a derailleur and shifter.

The Rambo's are much more expensive than Timbertrail's all-wheel drive. And Timbertrail's all-wheel drive runs off of one battery Is that the case with Bolton?

Plus, I'm almost positive the guy I spoke with at the hunting show said that the mid-drive motors are bound to have issues at a certain point (perhaps he was referring to changing gears and messing up the chain when under a lot of pressure). However, I could definitely be butchering or misremembering what he actually said. So don't quote me on that.

So, with your Radrover and upgraded controller, I assume you've used it in some steep terrain and had no issues? Seems like the way you went was super cost-effective.

flinginairos · Apr 30, 2020

DC10 said:
The Rambo's are much more expensive than Timbertrail's all-wheel drive. And Timbertrail's all-wheel drive runs off of one battery Is that the case with Bolton?

Plus, I'm almost positive the guy I spoke with at the hunting show said that the mid-drive motors are bound to have issues at a certain point (perhaps he was referring to changing gears and messing up the chain when under a lot of pressure). However, I could definitely be butchering or misremembering what he actually said. So don't quote me on that.

So, with your Radrover and upgraded controller, I assume you've used it in some steep terrain and had no issues? Seems like the way you went was super cost-effective.

Mid drives can certainly put more strain on the drive components (sprockets/chains/gear sets) and if any of those fail in the field you are left pushing. A hub drive doesn’t put any strain on those components and can basically run with no chain. My mid drive has been awesome so far and I haven’t been easy on it. I think all of them are good you just have to be aware of what to watch for.

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dougell · May 1, 2020

I bought a new Rambo 750w last summer for $1599.I live in the mountains and it climbs steep hills with ease.Mine came with a 3speed Sturmey archer rear hub and it's been problematic.They just sent me a new rim and hub this week.I swapped the tire from the old rim and put everything back together this morning.The jury is still out on it.The concept is great.The bike?We'll see.

Shane6491 · May 2, 2020

I plan to get the radrover step Thur and the Rambo upgraded controller. The boss (aka the wife) approved this purchase lol soon as I get back to work full time. Started back this week just a few days a week. Hopefully within the next few weeks I’ll be ordering one. They have been on back order tho must be pretty popular. Will post my thoughts on it when I get it. From the research I’ve done I don’t think ya can go wrong with a rad bike.

Apex7 · May 2, 2020

Shane6491 said:
I plan to get the radrover step Thur and the Rambo upgraded controller. The boss (aka the wife) approved this purchase lol soon as I get back to work full time. Started back this week just a few days a week. Hopefully within the next few weeks I’ll be ordering one. They have been on back order tho must be pretty popular. Will post my thoughts on it when I get it. From the research I’ve done I don’t think ya can go wrong with a rad bike.

I have a Radrover with the Bolton upgrade controller and it's a beast. I love it.

Shane6491 · May 2, 2020

Yeah @Apex7 me and you have talked a little about this on the other post. Your the one that told me about the Rambo upgrades and accessories. Appreciate it man! Looking forward to getting mine soon.

Apex7 · May 2, 2020

dougell said:
I bought a new Rambo 750w last summer for $1599.I live in the mountains and it climbs steep hills with ease.Mine came with a 3speed Sturmey archer rear hub and it's been problematic.They just sent me a new rim and hub this week.I swapped the tire from the old rim and put everything back together this morning.The jury is still out on it.The concept is great.The bike?We'll see.

That's why I didn't like the 3 speed Sturmey archer rear hub. I like to have a 7 or 9 speed Shimano shifter with the derailleur. I hear guy having a lot of problems with the 3 speed Sturmey archer.

Apex7 · May 2, 2020

Shane6491 said:
Yeah @Apex7 me and you have talked a little about this on the other post. Your the one that told me about the Rambo upgrades and accessories. Appreciate it man! Looking forward to getting mine soon.

Enjoy

Apex7 · May 2, 2020

DC10 said:
The Rambo's are much more expensive than Timbertrail's all-wheel drive. And Timbertrail's all-wheel drive runs off of one battery Is that the case with Bolton?

Plus, I'm almost positive the guy I spoke with at the hunting show said that the mid-drive motors are bound to have issues at a certain point (perhaps he was referring to changing gears and messing up the chain when under a lot of pressure). However, I could definitely be butchering or misremembering what he actually said. So don't quote me on that.

So, with your Radrover and upgraded controller, I assume you've used it in some steep terrain and had no issues? Seems like the way you went was super cost-effective.

Yes I climbed some decent size hills. I climb the same hills my friend does with his 1000 watt Rambo.
Just remember e-bikes are not motorcycles.

Nchunter1989 · May 2, 2020

DC10 said:
Anyone here familiar with Timbertrail ebikes? Met them at a hunting expo in Raleigh, NC. From what I understand, they are the only folks with a 2-wheel drive bike. Of course, you can pedal, pedal-assist, run one-wheel or two-wheel drive. It seems like a much cheaper alternative to a Rambo bike that equals (or potentially) surpasses it in performance because it has 2-wheel drive capability.

TimberTrail E-bikes

Quality fat tire electric bike that you can ride anywhere, from running errands in town to traversing fields, trails, and mountain streams.

www.timbertrail.bike

Definitely want to get an ebike but don't want to break the bank anymore than needed. Would love to get feedback from anyone who has an e-bike and has used it in steep terrain. Is having a powerful (rambo-like) motor or 2 wheel drive a necessity to get in and out of steep terrain? I'm more than willing to go with a sub $2k bike if it will adequately meet my needs. And although I don't solely hunt steep terrain, I do hunt it throughout the season.

Also, do any of you ride your bike down steep terrain with timber? Just curious if you're able to do so without picking up substantial speed.

You didnt specify if you're hunting public or private, but E-bikes are a no go on NC public land. Coincidentally I've been looking either a Mnt bike or an E-bike & was informed on another forum that it wasnt legal behind the gates- Checked with NCWRC & sure enough,"it has a motor, so its not allowed on public".

Shane6491 · May 2, 2020

Here’s pa’s take on it. Your post got me looking into it ^^ ! Technically the radrover can be powered with out assist. So there is a kinda gray area on that. At least here in pa. I’m sure if you got stopped you could get away with it here. Just put it in one of the assist modes lol plus adding the Rambo upgrades puts it over the watts allowed. But honestly who’s going to be checking that. Idk this is something to think about now lol

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Nchunter1989 · May 2, 2020

This is ours-

I was surprised, just based on the verbiage I assumed it was referencing combustion motors or electric golf carts/scooters. Not according to a district captain I talked to, who was actually familiar with QuietKat, he had purchased one for the other officers in his district. Apparently his take is that it can lead to disturbance or trail damage.

I’m reaching out to the Land & Water access rep & see what’s required to get specific clarification in the regs.

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flinginairos · May 2, 2020

dougell said:
I bought a new Rambo 750w last summer for $1599.I live in the mountains and it climbs steep hills with ease.Mine came with a 3speed Sturmey archer rear hub and it's been problematic.They just sent me a new rim and hub this week.I swapped the tire from the old rim and put everything back together this morning.The jury is still out on it.The concept is great.The bike?We'll see.

What kind of issues are you having with the Sturmey? I have one on mine and so far it’s been fine. Anything I should be looking out for? My bike has a couple hundred miles on it at this point with the gear hub.

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Apex7 · May 2, 2020

Shane6491 said:
Here’s pa’s take on it. Your post got me looking into it ^^ ! Technically the radrover can be powered with out assist. So there is a kinda gray area on that. At least here in pa. I’m sure if you got stopped you could get away with it here. Just put it in one of the assist modes lol plus adding the Rambo upgrades puts it over the watts allowed. But honestly who’s going to be checking that. Idk this is something to think about now lol

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You need to look at the law that was set in 2019 . A 750 watt ebike is legal on state forest land . Class 2 bike max speed 20 miles per hour. Google PA laws for e-bikes 2019 . People for ebikes

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