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Treebolts revisited

Allegheny Tom said:
Okay, had an issue this morning with the full dip bolts. Originally, I tested them out on hickory and walnut trees and they worked okay...a little tight but not an issue. I hunted a run and gun tulip poplar this morning and I had a lot of trouble getting them fully seated. Also had difficulty getting them out. Not sure if certain species of tree drills holes "sloppy" and is critical of bold diameter. Maybe harder trees drill cleaner which enables dipped bolts to be inserted easier. It had also rained inches over night so I don't know if the wet conditions made the rubber sticky on wet wood...I don't know.
I didn't like the struggle trying to get them seated. Fully dipped bolts are nice and quiet in the pouch...I like that. But not at the expense of a quick and easy set-up.
I will say this...These were dipped in the Plasti dip stuff, which seems to be a bit thick (at least my can was thick). I did buy some Flex Seal dip and it's much thinner. It may be the balance between the 2 dips. Flex Seal is not as thick as Plasti, but it might coat enough to deaden the tink and ring of metal bolts on metal bolts...but also be thin enough to allow bolts to be inserted easier.
I don't know the answer on which works best. Just didn't want anyone to do what I did and have an issue on softer trees. If you are dealing with very hard trees, then maybe a full dip won't be an issue for you. I'm going to try a couple bolts dipped in the thin Flex Seal and see how that works,
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Others have tried dipping the entire bolt. They end up cutting it off on the thread end.


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PJC said:
Others have tried dipping the entire bolt. They end up cutting it off on the thread end.


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Yep. Live and learn. The full dip worked fine on the 1st few trees that I tested them on. But all it takes is one tree where full dippers won't work well. I removed the rubber, too.

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First little sewing project since I got my machine...going to add a couple straps to keep it rolled up as well as allow it to attach to me while climbing.

Once I figure everything out how I like it I will make a new one out of some better materials...should work for the time being though.
 

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This is what I have been using to hand drill bolts, folding ratchet.
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Gary smtf said:
This is what I have been using to hand drill bolts, folding ratchet.
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How does it work? How long does it take to drill a hole? You should show us a video.


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I did not time but not very long. It helps to duck tape to keep from loosing socked. A little heavy to carry all the time for cleaning pre drilled holds

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Wirrex said:
I recently read the whole thread. They were talking about the Milwaukee fuel drill. The one with hammer drill option is the strongest. I use one at work everyday and charge the battery once a week. I also use one at home as an ice auger. They are the best low temp cordless drill. Others seem to crap out when it gets cold.
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The ones with brushless motors are best They are the Milwaukee fuel brand. Dewalt has a brushless line. They are great g


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Gary smtf said:
This is what I have been using to hand drill bolts, folding ratchet.
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Can you post a little more detail about how you have this set up? I had a similar idea and bought one of these gearless ratchets to try out. The ratchet is dead silent. I just haven't gotten to trying to piece it all together yet.
 
Gary smtf said:
This is what I have been using to hand drill bolts, folding ratchet.
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Any trouble with bit staying seated? Do you need to apply much force to push bit in? I experimented with a similar idea. Ratchet and harbor freight auger bit. Results weren’t promising. The folding ratchet may be the key.
 
I would think the issue would be pulling the bit back out after drilling. I have to put a lot of back force on my EZ Kut drill to pull it back out. I usually like to keep it spinning in the same direction as when I'm drilling somewhat as I pull it back out. What keeps that drill in the socket?
 
PJC said:
I would think the issue would be pulling the bit back out after drilling. I have to put a lot of back force on my EZ Kut drill to pull it back out. I usually like to keep it spinning in the same direction as when I'm drilling somewhat as I pull it back out. What keeps that drill in the socket?
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I had a little trouble pulling the bit out on a tulip poplar (EZ KUT style drill). When I got fully drilled, I reversed the direction back and forth a few revolutions and it seemed to help. I did make sure the final direction of revolution was clockwise as I removed the bit to clear the chips.

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Has anyone found or tried a drill that is quiet enough to drill holes during season?like Milwaukee 12v drill and tried making it quiet?
 
Dgruis91 said:
Has anyone found or tried a drill that is quite enough to drill holes during season?like Milwaukee 12v drill and tried making it quite?
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The 12v struggles, granted mine has seen better days. Unless you have a long walk I would stick to the 18v stuff. I didn’t try to quiet it down at all.
 
Wirrex said:
The 12v struggles, granted mine has seen better days. Unless you have a long walk I would stick to the 18v stuff. I didn’t try to quiet it down at all.
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It struggles even if you only had to drill 1 or 2 trees? Like for a morning and evening sit?
 
Dgruis91 said:
Has anyone found or tried a drill that is quiet enough to drill holes during season?like Milwaukee 12v drill and tried making it quiet?
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It’s tempting to use a cordless for setting a tree during season because it’s sooooo easy. But I haven’t. I do enough stuff to ruin my hunts. I don’t need another way.


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Dgruis91 said:
It struggles even if you only had to drill 1 or 2 trees? Like for a morning and evening sit?
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I could only make it through one tree but mine is warn out with batteries far past their life expectancy. And actually mine is a pre-fuel m12. So, the newer brushless stuff will probably be fine running a 3/8 auger bit.
 
Mine is older too. If I charge the batteries and let them sit very long at all, I need to charge them again soon, like the day before I go out to use it again. I had two, what I though were, fresh batteries and didn't get through one and a half trees with both of them. Charged them up, went out the next day and they flew through several trees. (I think 5)
 
I went to a tree today that was pre-set in July with plasti dip bolts. No sign of squirrel damage, and there are a TON of squirrels in this piece of property.
I've had some sitting outside on my back porch all summer too. Same thing. A lot of squirrels and no sign of them chewing on the plasti dip.
 
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