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What do you wish your saddle had?

This is my vest. Once u take those junk pouches off it is all mesh and molle. A saddle built in would be sweet. The 2 large chest pockets are what I like so much about this 1. See the 3 center zippers? Unzip the sides and it's a cavity/pouch the whole length top to bottom and from zipper around to ur back.Screenshot_20210618-135823_(1).pngScreenshot_20210618-135817_(1).png
 
Fl Canopy Stalker said:
It’s called a JX3 there was one on the classifieds. Also I think trophyline circa 2008 had a saddle with a shoulder style mechanism so it was fall restraint and fall arrest all in one
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I've only sat in jx3 for 5 minutes so I'm not that knowledgeable but in my mind it's like a ridged seat strapped to ur body. Something like that vest with integrated mesh saddle would support u in a much different way....with the molle all over the whole thing u could really fine tune where I make support or not by moving some "back band" straps around...
 
Weldabeast said:
I've only sat in jx3 for 5 minutes so I'm not that knowledgeable but in my mind it's like a ridged seat strapped to ur body. Something like that vest with integrated mesh saddle would support u in a much different way....with the molle all over the whole thing u could really fine tune where I make support or not by moving some "back band" straps around...
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I posted that before I saw your vest. The best idea is really good just trying to come up with a tie in point for it to go to the tether without stepping on those trophyline patents, would be the issue for commercial companies looking for new ideas to sell
 
I think if you make a two panel, the bottom panel should have somewhat of a ridged insert or a bit more ridged bottom panel so you can use it as more of a seat to provide some structure when sitting but not so stiff it becomes uncomfortable. I have one of those Notch Floating D saddles and I really find it super comfortable because that bottom panel almost acts like kind of a seat but its not so ridged that it doesn't "Form" around your butt. I'm not really a sitter but I'm finding myself doing that more in this Notch because of that feature. Then you move it up the back a little when leaning, it really is a way to make a saddle multipurpose. You hear so much that one saddle seems better suited to those who sit more and another saddle is more for those who like to lean. Why not have a saddle that affords you the comfortable ability to do both without a lot more bulk and weight?
 
woodsdog2 said:
I think if you make a two panel, the bottom panel should have somewhat of a ridged insert or a bit more ridged bottom panel so you can use it as more of a seat to provide some structure when sitting but not so stiff it becomes uncomfortable. I have one of those Notch Floating D saddles and I really find it super comfortable because that bottom panel almost acts like kind of a seat but its not so ridged that it doesn't "Form" around your butt. I'm not really a sitter but I'm finding myself doing that more in this Notch because of that feature. Then you move it up the back a little when leaning, it really is a way to make a saddle multipurpose. You hear so much that this saddle is more for a sitter and this one is more for a leaner, why not have a saddle that affords you to do both.
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Many saddles afford you both, that doesn’t change that certain shapes or designs fit one particular style more than the other. Leaning in a deep cup saddle is possible but it’s not as comfy as sitting in one, vice versa, you can sit in a trophyline ambush, that doesn’t mean it’s as comfy as leaning in it will be. Two panels are definitely flexible. But that flexibility comes with more webbing, more weight, having to fidget to get your set up, and most of all- a higher price tag (minus a couple of them). Like anything in life there are trade offs and no two people are built exactly the same so comfort varies from person to person.
 
woodsdog2 said:
I think if you make a two panel, the bottom panel should have somewhat of a ridged insert or a bit more ridged bottom panel so you can use it as more of a seat to provide some structure when sitting but not so stiff it becomes uncomfortable. I have one of those Notch Floating D saddles and I really find it super comfortable because that bottom panel almost acts like kind of a seat but its not so ridged that it doesn't "Form" around your butt. I'm not really a sitter but I'm finding myself doing that more in this Notch because of that feature. Then you move it up the back a little when leaning, it really is a way to make a saddle multipurpose. You hear so much that one saddle seems better suited to those who sit more and another saddle is more for those who like to lean. Why not have a saddle that affords you the comfortable ability to do both without a lot more bulk and weight?
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Or have the ability to slide a piece of plastic or something in there to change your pressure points. Two layers with a slit. Then a piece of something that could slide in there and change some pressure points for a while. You can take it along, or don't. Plastic would be flexible some.. maybe if it even holds a piece of foam. So have one pocket close to your butt for the support, and another behind it for a pocket. You could either have two pockets or one pocket and the support. Not sure how much weight that would add to the saddle.
 
Sewn loops on the bridge loops. It's great having a removable bridge but the downside is that you lose the ability to set the angle for comfort. Having the sewn loops, they'll locate the carabiners for your comfort level.
 
MNFarmHunter said:
Sewn loops on the bridge loops. It's great having a removable bridge but the downside is that you lose the ability to set the angle for comfort. Having the sewn loops, they'll locate the carabiners for your comfort level.
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The new bridges that are girth hitches/prusik around the bridge loops accomplish this perfectly.
 
Fl Canopy Stalker said:
The new bridges that are girth hitches/prusik around the bridge loops accomplish this perfectly.
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They do and do well but personally, I don't like permanently attached bridges. It's nice to put on your saddle like a carpenters belt and not have to step into it, especially if your boots are muddy or the ground is wet/snowy.
 
MNFarmHunter said:
They do and do well but personally, I don't like permanently attached bridges. It's nice to put on your saddle like a carpenters belt and not have to step into it, especially if your boots are muddy or the ground is wet/snowy.
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I get that. Although I haven’t stepped into a saddle in years. I hold it by the bridge loops and go over the head and shoulders with it. That way wet muddy boots never come near my saddle.
 
Weldabeast said:
I've only sat in jx3 for 5 minutes so I'm not that knowledgeable but in my mind it's like a ridged seat strapped to ur body. Something like that vest with integrated mesh saddle would support u in a much different way....with the molle all over the whole thing u could really fine tune where I make support or not by moving some "back band" straps around...
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I know you guys think John at JX3 has some of my dirty laundry he's hanging over my head. But I've tried to reinvent the thing from the ground up, because of some of the same issues you all are tossing around. Ultimately, for most folks, the concept can't be improved. The modifications I've done to it strictly fit my dumb way of hunting. I should also toss out there, that I attempted to go down the rabbit hole of making the concept more modular, lighter, and less cumbersome for folks who don't want the frame pack style rigidity of the seat back. After a handful of evolutions, I ended up conceding it can't be improved without bad tradeoffs. I may have been wrong though...hopefully the fella proving me wrong brings it to the light of day sometime soon...
 
woodsdog2 said:
I think if you make a two panel, the bottom panel should have somewhat of a ridged insert or a bit more ridged bottom panel so you can use it as more of a seat to provide some structure when sitting but not so stiff it becomes uncomfortable. I have one of those Notch Floating D saddles and I really find it super comfortable because that bottom panel almost acts like kind of a seat but its not so ridged that it doesn't "Form" around your butt. I'm not really a sitter but I'm finding myself doing that more in this Notch because of that feature. Then you move it up the back a little when leaning, it really is a way to make a saddle multipurpose. You hear so much that one saddle seems better suited to those who sit more and another saddle is more for those who like to lean. Why not have a saddle that affords you the comfortable ability to do both without a lot more bulk and weight?
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Ok, I was thinking about one of my work harnesses while reading your post.
This thing might be a little bit heavy and noisy for hunting but check out the adjustable 'lower panel'...
(that's an aluminum plate for under your butt)

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phatkaw said:
Ok, I was thinking about one of my work harnesses while reading your post.
This thing might be a little bit heavy and noisy for hunting but check out the adjustable 'lower panel'...
(that's an aluminum plate for under your butt)

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Man you didn’t tell us you were a window washer:sweatsmile:
Seriously though it would be loud and noisy. I have seen people use a RCH and a bosons chair (black diamond now makes both) that would be about the same things. I like the idea of rigid but that might be a little too rigid for me
 
Fl Canopy Stalker said:
Man you didn’t tell us you were a window washer:sweatsmile:
Seriously though it would be loud and noisy. I have seen people use a RCH and a bosons chair (black diamond now makes both) that would be about the same things. I like the idea of rigid but that might be a little too rigid for me
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But a carbon fiber panel would be light, and not a noisy...
 
That harness up above actually might have something to learn from for saddle huntin`.

The lower panel just rides behind you until its deployed, once down it has its own bridge.
That thing truly is like sitting on a swing when in that mode.
 
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