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Who here has killed an elk?

kyler1945

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First trip to Colorado to chase em. It has been my experience that most critters don't stand a chance against a river rat Cajun southern country feller. But I feel an overwhelming sense that just getting in the same zip code as one is going to be the hard part. I've done my share of packing and hiking in the mountains, so I know what to expect there.

For those of you who have poked a hole in one, what's your advice for a greenhorn? No advice is too basic or insulting for me - I'm a sponge right now.

Lay it on me - and thanks in advance!
 
Following... planning, training, and preparing for my first archery elk hunt next year. Randy Newberg has a great e-scouting series on youtube.
 
I suggest one calling and one shooter. Keep the caller 100 yards behind the shooter with the shooter between the caller and the bull. It's fairly easy to get a bull to come in but hard to get him to commit to the last 50-100 yards.
 
September 12-18
Full moon is gonna hit right in the middle of that. The elk could head back to their beds early and come out late. Midday can be good if ya'll find some wallows or water holes near bedding. If you get on elk stay with them but you cant kill elk if they're not there. I wouldn't lock myself in to one particular spot until you find elk and a good tactic to find elk is to drive around at night and listen for the bugles. With the moon phase they should be active at night.
 
Our first 24 hours is currently slated for altitude acclimation and getting lay of land and then riding around calling and glassing.

I suspect there will be little sleeping anyway when we first get there, so we might as well make use of the time.

Two of us have ML Cow tags, so our plan is to put the archers out front, let the guys with cow tags call from further back with the extended range.

I think we'll be able to play the short game fine - I'm most concerned about shrinking the field as early as possible, and finding out where an elk wants to be that time of year. I can see how the riding around and listening and calling at night could make that a whole lot faster.

Thanks for the tips, keep em coming.
 
I took a 5 x 5 in the mid 90's in the Flat Tops Wilderness in Colorado. I shot mine in the middle of a burned area in the morning and then took one of my buddies up there to sit in the evening and he took a 5 x 5 that night.

We were hunting with an outfitter from a drop camp. He packed us in and then left us to our own devices with a handheld radio to call if we managed to shoot something. We got there a day early and I discovered the burn about a 1000ft up from camp. After we shot the elk we radioed the outfitter and they tried but they couldn't get the pack horses in to where the elk laid. We ended up packing that meat down the hill. It took a two days for us flat landers to pack all that meat out. Altitude is a bi#@&.

I have been out to Colorado twice and both times I worked my butt off in the summer getting in shape. Both times I thought I was in great shape before I got there but I still felt like I couldn't catch my wind at altitude. I had a great time out there though and would love to do it again some day.
 
Good for you man! I've done 3 hunts all DIY and killed one 6 x 6. I had opportunities at bulls every hunt and I've missed two (I know, I know). I've passed a dink bull each of the last two trips. I know a lot gets made of the success rates and all, but honestly, I may have been fortunate thus far but I actually think they are sorta kinda easy to hunt. Sure the mountains beat you down, but I find elk themselves aren't terribly hard to hunt once you find them. If you put the time in I think you'll do ok.

Be prepared to be hooked. If I lived 1/2 way closer I would no doubt hunt every year. The logistics and drive are just a killer from here.

It's physically brutal. I'm not out of shape, really, but I'm not much of an endurance athlete either. More of a quick-twitch guy. It's the grind that beats me down. Take lots of leuko tape and hit those hotspots as soon as you start feeling them.

As far as hunting them, there's a crap ton of internet wisdom out there these days and 7,937 youtube experts. Like anything else there a billion different styles to hunt them and really the experts all just know and pimp their own style. If I had to boil it down into a few things from my style:

Find them. Actually find them and cover ground until you do. Imo that is the big key to elk hunting. See, hear, smell actual elk and you are in business. Elk sign if not hours fresh means virtually nothing, you see good elk sign, those elk might be 10 miles away. Find them, then slow down and hunt just like you know how. Get out in front of them. Finding that proper pace to make your play is everything. You can't run down a herd of elk and when you find them you don't want to blow them to Utah. They cover country in a scope whitetails can't begin to touch.

When you decide to shoot your shot and make your play, dangit be aggressive. Wind is everything, they smell you they are long gone. But beyond that there is nothing subtle about proper elk hunting. They are loud. They stink. They don't see you or pick up movement, especially at a distance, nearly as well as whitetails do. As long as you don't get smelled you can really go at them pretty hard, you don't have to tiptoe around too much.

Not sure what your planned calling strategy is. The bull I shot I bugled in on a string. We've had a lot of bulls hang up doing that. I've just flat out ambushed a few. I've never cow called a bull in. The separated caller/shooter can work, but with elk you want to be responsive and you have to make sure that separation doesn't hinder your aggressiveness and cause you to lose your play.

I could go on all night. I'm dying not to go for the 3rd year in a row. Here's a little memoir I wrote of the bull I shot in '16 if you are interested in some material to get jazzed up.
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0ByglXa-yGmcbcy1qTVJLMVR6bXM/view?usp=sharing
 
I’ve been twice. First time we truck camped. It was awesome. Full bar, gourmet grilling every evening, a nice snack and beverage in the afternoon. The trout fishing was wonderful. I heard elk but never got on one. My buddy archery killed a 6x6 in the same area two years prior. Access was easy (relative term if you don’t have mountains where you live) and there were a few more hunters than typical from what I was told. There were nice mule deer around but it was a draw area for them.


Backpacked last year. Flew in with everything to Denver. First five days were backcountry living out of a pack. Saw elk and had a 6x6 at 12 yards. It came up a draw and ran a bench just below my buddy and I. We were separated slightly and I was waiting for a quartering away........it was just passing me when he stopped it short. Expandables don’t work on quartering to elk real well.
Got in to a couple more solo a couple days later but no shot. We went back to the place we camped the first time. No people but cattle everywhere. I didn’t bring my fly rod this trip.....I’ll never, ever do that again. From here on out it’s most likely going to be straight backcountry. I can’t describe it.

PM me if you want more details. It’s changed my life. I’m an east coast boy and the west has got me. My partner is going back again in September and I feel like I’m letting him down. I need to build a garage so I’ll wait a year. I’m going back.
 
I didn’t put holes in mine but did it ut just enough pressure on the trigger to know he was mine if I wanted him. Just a little 4x4 and pretty much decided that I wouldn’t be satisfied with it. People from Colorado have all told me I was stupid for passing a legal bull on public land. I would do like you plan and ride around at night. Don’t look at western hunting forums for leads. Look at backpacking forums for info on the area you will be hunting. They will post pictures of elk and where they were etc.
 
Good for you man! I've done 3 hunts all DIY and killed one 6 x 6. I had opportunities at bulls every hunt and I've missed two (I know, I know). I've passed a dink bull each of the last two trips. I know a lot gets made of the success rates and all, but honestly, I may have been fortunate thus far but I actually think they are sorta kinda easy to hunt. Sure the mountains beat you down, but I find elk themselves aren't terribly hard to hunt once you find them. If you put the time in I think you'll do ok.

Be prepared to be hooked. If I lived 1/2 way closer I would no doubt hunt every year. The logistics and drive are just a killer from here.

It's physically brutal. I'm not out of shape, really, but I'm not much of an endurance athlete either. More of a quick-twitch guy. It's the grind that beats me down. Take lots of leuko tape and hit those hotspots as soon as you start feeling them.

As far as hunting them, there's a crap ton of internet wisdom out there these days and 7,937 youtube experts. Like anything else there a billion different styles to hunt them and really the experts all just know and pimp their own style. If I had to boil it down into a few things from my style:

Find them. Actually find them and cover ground until you do. Imo that is the big key to elk hunting. See, hear, smell actual elk and you are in business. Elk sign if not hours fresh means virtually nothing, you see good elk sign, those elk might be 10 miles away. Find them, then slow down and hunt just like you know how. Get out in front of them. Finding that proper pace to make your play is everything. You can't run down a herd of elk and when you find them you don't want to blow them to Utah. They cover country in a scope whitetails can't begin to touch.

When you decide to shoot your shot and make your play, dangit be aggressive. Wind is everything, they smell you they are long gone. But beyond that there is nothing subtle about proper elk hunting. They are loud. They stink. They don't see you or pick up movement, especially at a distance, nearly as well as whitetails do. As long as you don't get smelled you can really go at them pretty hard, you don't have to tiptoe around too much.

Not sure what your planned calling strategy is. The bull I shot I bugled in on a string. We've had a lot of bulls hang up doing that. I've just flat out ambushed a few. I've never cow called a bull in. The separated caller/shooter can work, but with elk you want to be responsive and you have to make sure that separation doesn't hinder your aggressiveness and cause you to lose your play.

I could go on all night. I'm dying not to go for the 3rd year in a row. Here's a little memoir I wrote of the bull I shot in '16 if you are interested in some material to get jazzed up.
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0ByglXa-yGmcbcy1qTVJLMVR6bXM/view?usp=sharing

Annnnndddd now I won't sleep.

Excellent man - I feel like I was right there with you. You should be quite proud of that type of success right out of the gate!
 
I didn’t put holes in mine but did it ut just enough pressure on the trigger to know he was mine if I wanted him. Just a little 4x4 and pretty much decided that I wouldn’t be satisfied with it. People from Colorado have all told me I was stupid for passing a legal bull on public land. I would do like you plan and ride around at night. Don’t look at western hunting forums for leads. Look at backpacking forums for info on the area you will be hunting. They will post pictures of elk and where they were etc.

haha great tip - the granolies can come in handy!
 
You will love Colorado! Like everyone said watch the altitude and drink more than you think you need...got me bad for a few days 2 years ago above 10,000. I have never personally been successful but guys in our group have at times over the years. I will be going out around the 15th...I hunt South West Colorado and the bugling seems to be better later. If you can find a bull in the morning that has cows and just goes away from you bugling back just try to stick with them until they bed down. Then go in and challenge him...once he knows where his cows are he will usually come check you out then. I have seen this formula work several times. Best of luck to you guys out there!
 
You are planning almost exactly what a group of us from NH are doing. I’m heading to CO sept 11-22. I get the over whelming feeling! It’s hitting home right now. Lots of good info already in this thread
 
I was fortunate enough to get my first (hopefully not only) elk in Colorado last fall. None of this will likely be new information for you, but here were the things that stand out to me looking back:

1) Where I hunt in Ohio is relatively flat. Thermals aren't much of a factor. They absolutely were in the area of of Colorado I was hunting and it was hard for me to remember to take them in account and try to predict what they would be doing later in the day.
2) If I didn't have a wind checker that I used obsessively, I don't believe I would have gotten a shot opportunity.
3) Elk are huge, but can hide in ridiculously small areas that don't look they'd hold anything bigger than a rabbit.
4) The Elk Talk podcast has a ton of information and really helps pass time on a long drive.
5) This was the hardest and one I didn't do well at, but make sure the hunt itself is the trophy and don't put so much pressure on yourself to get an elk that you stress over it. I struggled with that because it was a significant expense of time and money, a 24 hour drive from home, and something I likely won't get to do too many times in my life.

I hope you have a great trip and I hope you post some pictures and stories!
 
I have five goals on this trip.

- Don't break a bone or die in the mountains.
- Learn the general logistics of a western hunt.
- I'm toting my DSLR - take a few dozen pictures each day.
- Enjoy my friends' company, and the fact that I'm not working or in the south Louisiana humidity and mosquitoes.
- Get within 200 yards of an elk.

I am an aggressive hunter. I don't wait around. I will blow critters out before I let it get dark trying to coax one to me. But our focus on this trip is learning how to shrink the playing field. Success will be measured pretty easily with the goals I have set forth.

I'm sure those will all go out the window the first time I hear a bugle within a half mile, and I tear off after it!
 
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