Lightest Climbing Methods?

[Samcirrus]

Now it really depends on the angle of lean of the tree. At some point(in the degree of lean that's acceptable to you) if you ABSOLUTELY have to be in that tree then just stay on the low side.
Like if the tree is such a bad angle that one move to the left or right of equilibrium swings you all the way over into the back of the tree ...then try ground hunting that spot...idk.

 

[Samcirrus]

Just for comparison this platform is 4 pounds .....I don't even use itView attachment 59776

You need a tree boob like weldabeast!

 

[Petrichor]

I have a question....do you use 1 or 2 linesman belt when you climb with strap on steps in order to be safe and going about branches or do you climb full samoan?

My tether and linesman are identical. I use my linesman in the linesman loops. If I need to pass the other one comes out and I run it through the d ring on my cobra buckle. Pass the linesman and remove the one in the d ring.

 

[tailgunner]

You need a tree boob like weldabeast!

I love yhat big old cong mushroom.could double as my backpacking pillow.weldas.a beast for sure

 

[Petrichor]

Now it really depends on the angle of lean of the tree. At some point(in the degree of lean that's acceptable to you) if you ABSOLUTELY have to be in that tree then just stay on the low side.
Like if the tree is such a bad angle that one move to the left or right of equilibrium swings you all the way over into the back of the tree ...then try ground hunting that spot...idk.

Sounds almost too good to be true. Will keep an eye out.

 

[tailgunner]

tree walker post distapered? why

 

[tailgunner]

I have a question....do you use 1 or 2 linesman belt when you climb with strap on steps in order to be safe and going about branches or do you climb full samoan?

1 linemens with steps, wont even carry 1 when i know im climbing branches, its not even half a pound. i dont even know why i leave it.just minimalist habbits.but i also risk my life for an hourly wage climbing wet 40 foot ladders with no linemens.no matter how smart you are ,how good of a climber you are or how good your equipment is .the second your feet come of the ground your life is at risk.its not fare to my family that i risk my life for deer but i risk my life to support them.this is why i dont convence people to climb trees to hunt if they dont already.but to those who do .i claim my shnilt.yep im the best at doing bumb shnilt

 

[Samcirrus]

My tether and linesman are identical. I use my linesman in the linesman loops. If I need to pass the other one comes out and I run it through the d ring on my cobra buckle. Pass the linesman and remove the one in the d ring.

Thought so! It's just funny to me when some people get hung up about 2TC and passing branches when every other safe method needs 2 tethers/LB to pass a branch too!

 

[Petrichor]

Thought so! It's just funny to me when some people get hung up about 2TC and passing branches when every other safe method needs 2 tethers/LB to pass a branch too!

Yep. I’d give 2 tethered a go but I am happy with the steps. You won’t catch me one sticking though. That looks a tad sketch to me.

 

[tailgunner]

it makes me laff just thinking about how my mom laffs at hunters with sticks that dont have spearheads on them.not trying to hurt feelings .but my wifes friend just told me what are you doing in a tree ....... the deer are not up in trees .now im eating tag soup.see they say...well atleast i didnt carry sticks around

 

[tailgunner]

sam you make too much sence saying that logical stuff ...you know you started 2tc.so you could get down in the backwoods and try for a coastal rossie..its been in the back of your mind

 

[John RB]

Am looking for a reasonable light weight climbing method to take several miles into the back country.

Intend to hunt elk in a saddle in an aspen tree, would like to get about 20' off the ground. (The aspen trees are relatively limbless, straight, smooth bark, and a very soft wood.)

Am fine using either top of climbing stick, platform, or ROS once at hunting height.

So, what would you suggest as the five lightest climbing methods? (Keep in mind, this needs to be portable, as it will be coming several miles into the back county.)

https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLETL-PceEXkbFvJsWu-N-iXSTCuzJnr0Z

I didn't read all the responses. In summary, I have been doing this 14 years. I believe my JRB Climbing system is all of the :

1. LIGHTEST. My saddle plus 3lb rope. No pack. I don't use a platform either.

2.FASTEST. 25 ft in 2.5 minutes.

3. SAFEST. Redundancy for all moving Parts including the carabiners friction hitches and my bridge

4. CHEAPEST. 150ish plus saddle.

5. MOST VERSATILE. Between the JRB Hitch climbing option and my ability to climb to two different tie in points and get in the middle of a big tree... I don't even need to carry a throw ball for a run and Gun hunt.

The info is free. I don't sell it. You build it.

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[pesqimon]

and my ability to climb to two different tie in points and get in the middle of a big tree... I don't even need to carry a throw ball for a run and Gun hunt.

What do you mean here? I’d love to know how to not need to throw a ball to climb a rope up a tree. TIA

 

[John RB]

What do you mean here? I’d love to know how to not need to throw a ball to climb a rope up a tree. TIA

There were two points in there.

1. Climb 2 two TIPs:

2. Climbing without a throwball. There is only ONE video on the playlist. I have since made some major improvements to his method and I will be getting to those as soon as the weather and my schedule allows it.

https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLETL-PceEXkbOxNPBrpcIFnpl2HUmSrwM

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[elk yinzer]

The info is free. I don't sell it. You build it.

I've been diving into rope access and I appreciate your videos. And kudos for your stance, having seen the last 5 or 6 years of saddle hunting evolution, going from a lot of open sharing, to now trade secrets and consumer beta testing and hype. But it is a lot to digest for us ground monkeys. I'm just trying to learn the basics first with a lot of emphasis on self rescue.

 

[John RB]

I've been diving into rope access and I appreciate your videos. And kudos for your stance, having seen the last 5 or 6 years of saddle hunting evolution, going from a lot of open sharing, to now trade secrets and consumer beta testing and hype. But it is a lot to digest for us ground monkeys. I'm just trying to learn the basics first with a lot of emphasis on self rescue.

Thx. I learned this all myself. I was climbing for at least 10 years on my DIY before I ever even heard of a tree saddle. And so i had a head start. But i figure it this way: its just the right to do. It will save some broken bones.

I was asked to do some video content on self-rescue and failure modes and that is on my list. There are features already built into my system to facilitate this.

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[ouachitamac]

View attachment 59386this is what I used. Not as light as 2tc but I like the extra room of the perch

this is what i do, but with a couple sticks and a rope. works great. you tube the burinawa
technique. you could even cut the sticks from saplings when you get to a spot,.

 

[Weldabeast]

this is what i do, but with a couple sticks and a rope. works great. you tube the burinawa
technique. you could even cut the sticks from saplings when you get to a spot,.

How long have u been climbing that way?

 

[ouachitamac]

How long have u been climbing that way?

this year i did it several times. i did it with two sticks, one on each end of a lightweight 20' rope, and i also tried with taking 4 separate sticks with 10' rope. both worked. i havent cut onsite sticks yet, but I did it in the yard with good results. i would cut on site for a several mile, maybe set up in a tree, maybe not, kinda elk hunt though. it is plenty safe, since Im tied in from the ground all the way up. and it gets faster with each setup.

 

[ouachitamac]

my setup looked just like the other posters picture, but with one loop on each step. im setting the steps up at nipple height, and then dropping the loop halfway between there and my feet.