Behind white oak acorns, go...
You may be referring to one of my post. I hunted an area in KY that the deer didnt touch persimmons. Weirdest thing I have ever seen related to deer food for sure.I don't know if I would say overrated, but I think it all depends on the abundance of.
This year in SW Va. it seems if it were a oak tree it produced and dropped acorns. So I was seeing more sign on other food sources, such as CRP.
And while there were acorns on the ground the vegetation on the hill tops I was hunting was eaten bare to the ground.
Also someone from saddlehunter posted some time back his area was loaded with persimmons and the deer wouldn't touch them. I'm thinking no way! Around here if you find a persimmon tree that's producing you could splash on some old spice, sit underneath it and harvest a deer.
Interesting topic. Curious to see what others contribute.Behind white oak acorns, go...
You may be referring to one of my post. I hunted an area in KY that the deer didnt touch persimmons. Weirdest thing I have ever seen related to deer food for sure.
You may be referring to one of my post. I hunted an area in KY that the deer didnt touch persimmons. Weirdest thing I have ever seen related to deer food for sure.
So back in Jersey, when I was a kid, we did a lot of baiting in the Pines. The deer loved apples. There wasn't an apple tree for miles and miles but they loved them. Close to home we got permission on a farm that had pear trees but no apple trees. We'd pick them up and use them for bait. The deer tore up the pears. We had bait piles in both locations w/ apples and pears. On the farm, they would eat the pears and not the apples. In the Pines, they would eat the apples and not the pears.I found a pear tree on public and thought I’d hit the jackpot
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Dwarf Chinkapin (sp?) Oak is another oak that produces acorns at a very early age. I had a few acorns on some in as little as 3 years. Very dependable too. It's a white oak that bears acorns every year.On one of the properties I hunt and have helped
My friend manage, we planted 50+ sawtooth oaks parallel to two small <30 ft. deep drainages that run together eventually. One is directly north south the other is northwest southeast they both flow north. Anyway the deer like these sawtooth oak acorns in the late summer early fall (September) but what likes them even more and have essentially ruined many of the upper branches of these trees are black bears!!! The acorns have a soft spiny exterior shell almost like a giant beech it and kind of like a horse chestnut but very soft. They get to about the size of a fifty cent piece. Bears absolutely love them.
If you’re looking for a species that produces good mast in a relatively short period of time compared to other mast bearing trees, consider the sawtooth oak. We were getting acorns within 8 years after planting and consistent and purposeful game consumption activity at them within 10-12 years after planting. They were simply bare-root shoots that we planted. We tied them off to support poles with grow tubes for the first 8 years. The first five years we just had grow tubes over them with a bamboo or 1” -1.5” square scrap wood pounded in next to them to keep the grow tube from blowing away.
Never knew this!!! What can you do to treat them? Will it effect naturally occurring oaks as well?Dwarf Chinkapin (sp?) Oak is another oak that produces acorns at a very early age. I had a few acorns on some in as little as 3 years. Very dependable too. It's a white oak that bears acorns every year.
And I have yet to find any weevils in them. Not sure if they are resistant to weevils but I have not found any.
A lot of hunters dont know that weevils can heavily effect acorns. Thousands of acorns can lay on the ground, untouched by deer because every single nut has a tiny white worm inside. Always crack open a few acorns and look for weevils. If you find worms, then move on because the deer ain't gonna eat there.
As far as I know, there isn't much that can be done about oak weevils.Never knew this!!! What can you do to treat them? Will it effect naturally occurring oaks as well?
What I’ve found on my local red oaks is that the acorns that drop with the caps still attached usually have weevils and the acorns that drop clear of the caps typically don’t. It’s usually a mixed bag on the ground of good and bad acorns so I wouldn’t automatically disregard a tree if I find a few weevils. Although eventually the deer will probably eat all the good ones and only the bad will be left.Dwarf Chinkapin (sp?) Oak is another oak that produces acorns at a very early age. I had a few acorns on some in as little as 3 years. Very dependable too. It's a white oak that bears acorns every year.
And I have yet to find any weevils in them. Not sure if they are resistant to weevils but I have not found any.
A lot of hunters dont know that weevils can heavily effect acorns. Thousands of acorns can lay on the ground, untouched by deer because every single nut has a tiny white worm inside. Always crack open a few acorns and look for weevils. If you find worms, then move on because the deer ain't gonna eat there.
I just checked 10 or so that I planted in 2017/18… the bases get thick fast and the tubes were too tight, holding moisture… now have two that I’m not sure if the bark can recover, other than that a nice little fast growing stand. Lesson learned though gotta keep an eye on tubes as trees grow.On one of the properties I hunt and have helped
My friend manage, we planted 50+ sawtooth oaks parallel to two small <30 ft. deep drainages that run together eventually. One is directly north south the other is northwest southeast they both flow north. Anyway the deer like these sawtooth oak acorns in the late summer early fall (September) but what likes them even more and have essentially ruined many of the upper branches of these trees are black bears!!! The acorns have a soft spiny exterior shell almost like a giant beech it and kind of like a horse chestnut but very soft. They get to about the size of a fifty cent piece. Bears absolutely love them.
If you’re looking for a species that produces good mast in a relatively short period of time compared to other mast bearing trees, consider the sawtooth oak. We were getting acorns within 8 years after planting and consistent and purposeful game consumption activity at them within 10-12 years after planting. They were simply bare-root shoots that we planted. We tied them off to support poles with grow tubes for the first 8 years. The first five years we just had grow tubes over them with a bamboo or 1” -1.5” square scrap wood pounded in next to them to prevent the grow tube from blowing away.