razorsharptokill
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Do you mean 90 degrees? 180 would be where the cross bar is. I think routing the rope OVER instead of under the cross bar might be better than under. This is just an experiment at the moment. Some would say that drilling through the tubing will weaken the structural integrity. I feel that the holes are small enough and far enough apart that this won't be an issue. One advantage of the W.E. rope is during the cam over motion, the stretch seems to aid in getting a tight fit, if that makes sense. Amsteel might be a better option than the type of rope I used which is off of a muddy stick. I tried it on the front too and the angle wasn't very good.just from a quick glance my instinct says to flip your cam cleat 180, so the opening faces the tree, and then loop your rope around the crossbar so that the pressure is pulling evenly on the step, as opposed to at the crossbar and just below it like your current setup is
I mounted the cleat across the curve portion on the outside and tried rotating the cleat 180 degrees to experiment with the direction the rope fed through. Mounted like this, the best result came from feeding the rope through the step, around the standoff and back toward the tree.Anymore experimenting with this? Any negatives?
Yes. I have bent a couple steps trying to cam over when the rope is too tight though.FWIW, I have tried to hate the WE Stepps and bought and sold multiple sets over the years. I keep coming back to them and will be using them this fall whenever I go ultra lite and not using my Summit hand climber combo. The factory rope is just too simple and solid once you get the feel for it on the tree, so I have not seen a need for a better attachment method.
Yes. I have bent a couple steps trying to cam over when the rope is too tight though.
Have you weight tested those straps and buckles with more than you weigh? What type of rating do they have? Source for those?Here is my tried and true simple setup. Webbing, buckle and a hook so it is quick release. Zero stretch so it's even easy to set on a big tree. Also allows for easy minor tightening and loosening.
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I like the cam cleat idea. Interesting solution.
Have you weight tested those straps and buckles with more than you weigh? What type of rating do they have? Source for those?
Agreed, it is kind of like a kid learning to tie shoe laces. It’s clumsy and you have to think about it for a while, then muscle memory kicks in and it just happens right each time without thinking. They are easy enough to straighten if that occurs while learning.