I removed mine. I use a Method and climb with my platform similar to someone who 1 sticks. I've never had an issue. My rope belt stays tight and the bottom panel cups my rear nicely while hanging and moving my platform up.
Proper buckles don't help much if the other end of the strap isn't attached to hold any significant load though.
When I bought my kestrel, AeroHunter did have the MBS of each component on the site. That’s one of the main reasons I bought from them, aside from amazing construction and impeccable customer service. The straps themselves I can’t remember, but the actual brand/material was listed for everything including straps, and a MBS was given for the saddle as a whole, all ropes, all mechanical components ie buckles and clips of all kinds. May have listed the MBS for straps but I don’t think so. They were very adamant though that leg straps were an essential part of their equipment.Proper buckles don't help much if the other end of the strap isn't attached to hold any significant load though.
In nomal hang the waist belt doesn't move. If you are standing eg on a stick and the stick fails, you're falling upright and the waist belt will absolutely be yanked upwards, even biggest beer gut is quite soft in that regard. Ribcage is where it can possibly cinch up, next stop will be ground unless your jacket bunches up in a lucky streak.
It might be just Method 2 where leg straps are stitched to bottom panel. On single panel I think there might actually be more load on the straps when hanging to retrieve a stick.
One thing I find disturbing is the companies don't provide the tested MBS of the saddle parts, just some user weight limit without explanation
I'm using Method 2 and sometimes when I climb a 20" or so tree and straddle it to reach for the stick, I get very uncomfortable feeling of my sit bones creeping towards the edge of the panel. I mean I can stop it in that situation, but one day when that Harken cleat fails and I tumble randomly into my tether, there's no guarantee there's any cupping action to save me.I removed mine. I use a Method and climb with my platform similar to someone who 1 sticks. I've never had an issue. My rope belt stays tight and the bottom panel cups my rear nicely while hanging and moving my platform up.
Without proper testing standards and companies witholding information I don't know if there is. If anyone has access to ASTM testing procedure eg. Latitude refers to in their marketing jargon, I'd like to see it.Are there any saddles with proper buckles that are attached so as to hold a significant load? Get one of those.
Excellent, that's how it should be. The buckles Latitude uses slip with just few lbs and the stitching that attaches the leg straps to bottom panel is simple square of single row stitching. Can't get a photo right now but comparing to usual bar tacks it doesn't look anything like. That said, Latitude ignored my e-mail asking how strong the leg straps are supposed to be.When I bought my kestrel, AeroHunter did have the MBS of each component on the site. That’s the be of the main reasons I bought from them, aside from amazing construction and impeccable customer service. The straps themselves I can’t remember, but the actual brand/material was listed for everything including straps, and a MBS was given for the saddle as a whole, all ropes, all mechanical components ie buckles and clips of all kinds. May have listed the MBS for straps but I don’t think so. They were very adamant though that leg straps were an essential part of their equipment.
The power of marketing trumps any need to truly support your customers from what I’ve seen from some of these companies. I don’t have any experience with Latitude but you’re making me not want to. I can’t open any social media without seeing their ads plastered everywhere but I guess that’s what their email correspondents were doing when your email reached them…I'm using Method 2 and sometimes when I climb a 20" or so tree and straddle it to reach for the stick, I get very uncomfortable feeling of my sit bones creeping towards the edge of the panel. I mean I can stop it in that situation, but one day when that Harken cleat fails and I tumble randomly into my tether, there's no guarantee there's any cupping action to save me.
Without proper testing standards and companies witholding information I don't know if there is. If anyone has access to ASTM testing procedure eg. Latitude refers to in their marketing jargon, I'd like to see it.
Excellent, that's how it should be. The buckles Latitude uses slip with just few lbs and the stitching that attaches the leg straps to bottom panel is simple square of single row stitching. Can't get a photo right now but comparing to usual bar tacks it doesn't look anything like. That said, Latitude ignored my e-mail asking how strong the leg straps are supposed to be.
Initially I sent them an e-mail with questions related to some safety concerns and that has not received a reply in two weeks or so.The power of marketing trumps any need to truly support your customers from what I’ve seen from some of these companies. I don’t have any experience with Latitude but you’re making me not want to. I can’t open any social media without seeing their ads plastered everywhere but I guess that’s what their email correspondents were doing when your email reached them…
Yep, and it’s a darn shame they closed their doors. I’ll need a new saddle in the near future and now I’ve gotta find someone new to do business with.When I bought my kestrel, AeroHunter did have the MBS of each component on the site. That’s the be of the main reasons I bought from them, aside from amazing construction and impeccable customer service. The straps themselves I can’t remember, but the actual brand/material was listed for everything including straps, and a MBS was given for the saddle as a whole, all ropes, all mechanical components ie buckles and clips of all kinds. May have listed the MBS for straps but I don’t think so. They were very adamant though that leg straps were an essential part of their equipment.
Without proper testing standards and companies witholding information I don't know if there is. If anyone has access to ASTM testing procedure eg. Latitude refers to in their marketing jargon, I'd like to see it.
That’s one of @Fl Canopy Stalker saddles, right?My saddle does this:
I have a recon and it didn’t have leg straps. I can’t find that it ever had them from the manufacturer. I’m probably wrong.My used Recon didn't come with leg straps, being able to separate the two panels offers a pretty secure feeling for everything I've done in it including 2TC. Legs straps would probably help with the bottom panel riding up but I haven't decided how I would want to route them yet
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They come with them but I've never heard of anyone liking the factory straps. Someone had a great leg strap mod that was pretty sewing intensive that I would like to copy, I'll have to find it backI have a recon and it didn’t have leg straps. I can’t find that it ever had them from the manufacturer. I’m probably wrong.
I just saw that. It was posted last Thursday. Ironically I found it when I googled recon leg strapsThey come with them but I've never heard of anyone liking the factory straps. Someone had a great leg strap mod that was pretty sewing intensive that I would like to copy, I'll have to find it back
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They come with them but I've never heard of anyone liking the factory straps. Someone had a great leg strap mod that was pretty sewing intensive that I would like to copy, I'll have to find it back
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Anyone can buy, you only have to be a member to sell and be part of the contest. Just shoot them a PM instead of replying in the classified thread.That’s one of @Fl Canopy Stalker saddles, right?
Shame he’s not producing them anymore. Closest thing to a Kestrel, which they’re also not producing anymore. I’d probably get a SH membership just to buy a Kestrel or Wood in the Classifieds. But nobody posts them because they’re incredible. And talk about transparency.