• The SH Membership has gone live. Only SH Members have access to post in the classifieds. All members can view the classifieds. Starting in 2020 only SH Members will be admitted to the annual hunting contest. Current members will need to follow these steps to upgrade: 1. Click on your username 2. Click on Account upgrades 3. Choose SH Member and purchase.
  • We've been working hard the past few weeks to come up with some big changes to our vendor policies to meet the changing needs of our community. Please see the new vendor rules here: Vendor Access Area Rules

Just treestand platform as your platform

Timber Haint

New Member
Joined
Aug 24, 2020
Messages
5
I tried to search this but came up empty.

I see a lot of people talking about using their hang-on stand's seat as their platform. What about removing the seat and just using the base?

I'm comparing this to using something like Thethrd Predator XL. My guess is it would be overkill and - oddly enough - maybe less comfortable due to size?

As I'm completely new to this (the platform is the last thing to iron out before purchasing) comfort is my main concern. Sunrise to sunset hunts during the rut aren't "one-offs" for me. My thoughts are that the smaller platforms will be less comfortable over time because of pressure spots on your feet.

Capture.PNG
 
I tried to search this but came up empty.

I see a lot of people talking about using their hang-on stand's seat as their platform. What about removing the seat and just using the base?

I'm comparing this to using something like Thethrd Predator XL. My guess is it would be overkill and - oddly enough - maybe less comfortable due to size?

As I'm completely new to this (the platform is the last thing to iron out before purchasing) comfort is my main concern. Sunrise to sunset hunts during the rut aren't "one-offs" for me. My thoughts are that the smaller platforms will be less comfortable over time because of pressure spots on your feet.

View attachment 33123
I have compared these bigger platforms to a dance floor. They would be too big and heavy for me to consider. I only need a platform to stand up on about every 15 minutes to reduce butt pressure.
 
Why not leave the seat on and fold it up when using it as a platform then you can still sit down when needed? I have a Windwalker just for this purpose for longer sits during the rut. I've noticed I need the bottom strap in addition to the top on most stands so they can handle the side pressure if using it in "saddle mode".
 
It works. I do it occasionally with an XOP for a bit but never really committed to it because I hate hauling that thing around. Tried it with a Windwalker and just wasn't into that stand. Didn't feel safe in it, and hated that it didn't have leveling.

I have a LWCG .5 on order I plan to get back to it.

I consider this hybrid approach a great option. There's a time and place for my smaller saddle platform, but long day, all day sits I like to have a little more real estate and to be able to just stand up to shoot is nice.

Cables don't really get in the way, more of an issue is finding a way to face the tree and keep your knees comfortable around the seat and platform post. I plan to attack that problem when/if my .5 comes.

You do want to anchor the bottom of the stand or it kicks out with side pressure even if you have it cammed in well.
 
Last edited:
XOP Vanish Evolution Hang-On Treestand. $179 at Scheels. I can't speak to the quality, but damn close, but lighter than the Lone Wolf.

I guess you have another treestand if it doesn't work. Which, from all accounts will be useless after my first saddle hang.
 
Why not leave the seat on and fold it up when using it as a platform then you can still sit down when needed? I have a Windwalker just for this purpose for longer sits during the rut. I've noticed I need the bottom strap in addition to the top on most stands so they can handle the side pressure if using it in "saddle mode".

I actually thought about keeping the seat on and using it's pad as the place to rest my knees. Thought it might be more of a pain... not sure.
 
It works. I do it occasionally with an XOP for a bit but never really committed to it because I hate hauling that thing around. Tried it with a Windwalker and just wasn't into that stand. Didn't feel safe in it, and hated that it didn't have leveling.

I have a LWCG .5 on order I plan to get back to it.

I consider this hybrid approach a great option. There's a time and place for my smaller saddle platform, but long day, all day sits I like to have a little more real estate and to be able to just stand up to shoot is nice.

Cables don't really get in the way, more of an issue is finding a way to face the tree and keep your knees comfortable around the seat and platform post. I plan to attack that problem when/if my .5 comes.

You do want to anchor the bottom of the stand or it kicks out with side pressure even if you have it cammed in well.

The "more real estate" for an all day was definitely where I was going. Seems like people do it an it will be a personal thing I'll have try.
 
Why not leave the seat on and fold it up when using it as a platform then you can still sit down when needed? I have a Windwalker just for this purpose for longer sits during the rut. I've noticed I need the bottom strap in addition to the top on most stands so they can handle the side pressure if using it in "saddle mode".
Makes sense. You might could put buttons on the bottom of the seat and reverse it to rest your knees on it when sitting position with your saddle.
 
I have 3 windwalkers, 1 lone wolf assault, a pile of milleniums, used to have a predator, a mission, and a scout on a stick, if I was going to buy a comfy platform and spend $180 it would be the mission, if I had any intentions on using the seat then maybe I would consider a stand approach hybrid deal but for a dedicated saddle system I am liking the mission for comfort and room to move around on, the .5 has peaked my interest I will be curious to hear the weight after some guys give there review.
 
For me it’s easier to lean in a platform too, my stands put me too far away from the tree than I like to be when in a saddle, I mainly rifle hunt and like the tree to rest against when I shoot, so I like being closer to the tree, you can lean close to the tree in a stand also but then your feet are flat and it’s hard on my ankles, the shape of the mission is perfect for what I want and how I intend to hunt.
 
but then your feet are flat and it’s hard on my ankles, the shape of the mission is perfect for what I want and how I intend to hunt.

Being close to the tree, the foot placement and ankle issues you touched on are exactly why I thought, "oddly enough - maybe less comfortable due to size ".

I appreciate all the ideas and thoughts.
 
Being close to the tree, the foot placement and ankle issues you touched on are exactly why I thought, "oddly enough - maybe less comfortable due to size ".

I appreciate all the ideas and thoughts.
When I use a small stand instead of a platform it’s because I am climbing with spurs and need a seat to sit and strap them on and off, I am not very flexible, with sticks I prefer the mission for comfort.
 
I've done it several times with my 1.0. When I knew I needed to be on the back side of the tree I grabbed my kestrel flex. This worked fine but was only for evening hunts so I just leaned but if you were to sit with knees against the tree you'd have to figure out something to make it more comfortable. Might be fine if you did indeed remove the seat. Cables could possibly get in the way too if sitting in the saddle. If I were going to sit all day I'd use my predator with last stick on the other side of the tree. If using the stand for an all day sit I'd much prefer to be on the front of the tree sitting with a rock harness to give me the hybrid option to swing around if needed.
 
So I was just thinking about making a post on what I’ve found over time. What works for me and what doesn’t.
I’ve tried multiple options for platforms. Ring of steps, Wild edge steps, predator platform, lone wolf assassin platform and a lone wolf assault 2 stand.
Number 1, I don’t like needing a backpack. I don’t like bags period. I struggled to find a comfortable way to carry a predator or the assassin with climbing sticks and be hands free while walking.
Number 2, I want my weapon in my hand while walking. I have had opportunities while walking in before. Can you imagine bumping into the deer of a lifetime walking in and having your bow strapped to your back? That would be bad. I want to be able to shoot at the drop of a hat.
I like multiple climbing sticks because I’m familiar with them. I think I could climb a tree with climbing sticks blindfolded because I’ve done it so many times. I tried to use aiders and I just never can feel good about them after a couple kick outs.

So with all that being said here’s my .02cents on the subject. I keep weight down by leaving unnecessary stuff behind. I have a LW assault as mentioned that I’ve removed the seat from. It weighs 3 pounds more than my assassin so roughly 5 or 6 more than a predator.

The bigger size of a treestand platform does a couple things for me. It gives me all the flexibility needed to turn in any manner of ways necessary. I can even kneel down on it to shoot if I needed to. I can sit facing the tree like any other saddle setup or I can set it on a small bare patch on a cedar or any other bushy tree, face away from tree and sit sideways in the saddle. Removing the seat reduced weight by a couple pounds and I don’t need it with the saddle.
If I need to strip in and out of layers it’s easy for me to do on the bigger platform. I can bungee extra jacket, rain gear or overalls right to the stand to carry it in without a bag. The assault is small enough that it doesn’t stick out past my shoulders and catch on stuff.
I can also easily situate and fasten climbing sticks to it with just a couple niteize gear ties or bungees. I promise you I can get that lone wolf stand in any tree someone could hunt from a saddle platform or ring of steps. No doubt in my mind. I also like the full size stand a lot for leaning trees. The full size stand platform also allows me to use a nice molle waist belt which makes the weight feel like nothing. I’m not a big guy. I’m not a muscle man or work out guru. Yet I have no reservations about scouting for 3-4 hours with this stand and sticks on my back before an evening hunt. because of a good waist belt and comfortable shoulder straps.
I fully understand that many people like the idea of being lightweight with their setup. I do to but I made the trade off with comfort, safety, user friendliness over lightest setup. I know I’m never going to be a rappel guy, or a climbing spur guy. I have my reasons. My focus is on getting in the exact tree I need to get into to put an arrow in the spot I need to. I feel like this is my best option. Other than a stand and a bow my gear list is real small. Flashlight, bow rope, saddle, tether, lineman’s, bow hanger strap, milkweed pod, shooting glove, binoculars, phone, truck keys, license and tags.
 
XOP Vanish Evolution Hang-On Treestand. $179 at Scheels. I can't speak to the quality, but damn close, but lighter than the Lone Wolf.

I guess you have another treestand if it doesn't work. Which, from all accounts will be useless after my first saddle hang.

I don’t put a lot of faith in xop posted weights.
 
I bought a Novix Echo to use as a hybrid, i rope or one stick up to my sets so hanging it is no problem. I was afraid to mention it on here figured it was blasphemy in the saddle world.
 
Back
Top