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New and have some questions.

abock33

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So I'm converting from a climber to a saddle. I ultimately want a Kestrel but as of right now I only have my rc harness. I have all the ropes and webbing to make the lineman's rope and tree anchor which is 11-12mm static line that I used for rappelling years ago. It's been retired from rappelling on but still has good life in it as an anchor. I also have a diy set of 4 step aiders, plenty of locking binders and prussik loops.

So my questions are more opinions on gear choice but I do have a few questions on knot choices as well.

So I've the silent partner being used on the anchor as well as the prussik but what about a kliemheist knot? It is a self locking knot but moves easier when unloaded than the prussik. I'm probably thinking too far into it just curious.

My harness that I have is a Wild Country Synchro Elite and has 10kn accessory loops that are big enough to only fit a caribiner. There are one on each hip, 3 in the back as well as a 10kn haul line loop in the back. I'll clip my bow and pack there. They are designed so that if you take a fall while you are hauling gear bags they dont rip off the harness and plummet to the ground. I plan on using these to attach the lineman's belt to but what are your thoughts on using it for a bridge attachment as well? I plan on having a separate anchor line attaching the belay loop of the harness to the anchor point of the tree anchor but would this help distribute the weight to the sides better than hanging off the belay loop?

Platforms: what does everyone prefer in relation to size vs weight vs speed of setup? Right now I plan on just using my aiders or a tree branch but am looking for ideas that are either purchased or buildable for the future.

I'm looking forward to getting more mobile and ditching the 20 something pound climbing stand. This will open up so many more trees tu hunt out of I cant wait.
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I'm probably thinking too far into it just curious.

Welcome! to the saddlehunter forum where we over think every aspect of our climbing systems to perfection (and just for fun).

These are some of the fiction hitches I've tried:
Plain old Prussik
Blake's
Klemheist
Schwabisch hitch
Distel
VT
Knut (was my favortive as you can operate it one handed depending on your tether pussik cord combo, but the cornell is suppose to be even smoother at it)
Cornell (new one to me that I wanna try)

So welcome to a bottomless pit of ideas!
 
My harness that I have is a Wild Country Synchro Elite and has 10kn accessory loops that are big enough to only fit a caribiner. There are one on each hip, 3 in the back as well as a 10kn haul line loop in the back. I'll clip my bow and pack there. They are designed so that if you take a fall while you are hauling gear bags they dont rip off the harness and plummet to the ground. I plan on using these to attach the lineman's belt to but what are your thoughts on using it for a bridge attachment as well? I plan on having a separate anchor line attaching the belay loop of the harness to the anchor point of the tree anchor but would this help distribute the weight to the sides better than hanging off the belay loop?

I would defiantly route my lineman's webbing loops through that 10kn loop and those loops for holding your waist strap tails. However, I think you will find for you bridge you will want to DIY a (non-rated) saddle or get a sit-drag as it'll give you the surface area for sitting/leaning that will spread the weight out much better than the waist band of the RC harness and then tree tether to bridge were your resting weight will be and the end of the tether to RC harness belay loop for actual fall protection.
 
I would defiantly route my lineman's webbing loops through that 10kn loop and those loops for holding your waist strap tails. However, I think you will find for you bridge you will want to DIY a (non-rated) saddle or get a sit-drag as it'll give you the surface area for sitting/leaning that will spread the weight out much better than the waist band of the RC harness and then tree tether to bridge were your resting weight will be and the end of the tether to RC harness belay loop for actual fall protection.
I was looking at the sit drag the other day and for the price it looks like a good place to start. I was more questioning the difference between hanging with the anchor points on the hips rather than the belay loop. More room for the boys to breathe is a plus. I've hung in this harness for hours and it is a very comfortable harness just wondering if the wider anchor point would help. Cant wait to try this out. Combining climbing and hunting makes me happy.

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I was looking at the sit drag the other day and for the price it looks like a good place to start. I was more questioning the difference between hanging with the anchor points on the hips rather than the belay loop. More room for the boys to breathe is a plus. I've hung in this harness for hours and it is a very comfortable harness just wondering if the wider anchor point would help. Cant wait to try this out. Combining climbing and hunting makes me happy.

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Hmm I'd say hips, I never use just a rock harness for hunting just rock climbing, before I bought a trophy line saddle I used my tree harness from work which had it's own bridge, but I would think multiple points spread out would be better than a single point for longer lasting comfort. In conjunction with a platform you can lean with more weight on your feet than you can with a ring of steps since your feet are slightly further from the tree, sometimes I just stand straight up on the platform to break from leaning or sitting. A platform really give you the best of both worlds between saddles and hang on stands since you can pretty much use either technics as far as moving/rotating and shooting.

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