ozone and scent control

[Tom Karrow]

Some questions re ozone from ozone users.

A. what type of generator are you using?
B. Where did you get it?
C. For the Ozone DIY... does ozone weight more than other gases in air. Will it settle over clothing in a bin or rise through them?
D. How do you treat your boots if they are rubber or neoprene?
E. Do you treat your saddle?

F. How long does scent stay on a surface? I am sure many variables affect this, like temp., humidity., porosity etc. Any known studies on this though?


Thanks, Tom

 

[fawnzy]

Hi Tom,
How’s it goin’ eh?

Most ozone machines are commercial units and they will be fine for treating your gear. You don’t need a large one unless you want to treat your home as well but read up on that first. There are safety concerns.

Some guys put there stuff in a box and treat it. However best result would be to hang it so air can surround your gear. Whatever unit you buy, make sure you open a window in the room your treating in. The machines need fresh O2 to make O3. Don’t place the unit in a box if that’s your chosen method. Better to pipe it in by hose.
Ozone will damage your eyes,throat and lungs. As well as those of your loved ones and pets. It will damage plants and rubber so mind your boots and all electronics.
If you can smell ozone while it’s being produced, you’re producing amounts that are dangerous. I treat my gear in isolated places and wear a full face mask when entering the room.
At room temperature the ozone will start to break down after 30 min. Give it a good hour after the machine is off before breathing the air without protection. At colder temp the ozone will last much longer. In that case I make sure I can vent the area well when done treatment.
Your gear will smell like ozone after it’s treated for several days. That’s safe to smell.
Any gear with rubber I spray with scent killer instead of using Ozone.

Dry conditions are best. Make sure your gear is dry.
A de humidifier is great or air con.

Ozone is heavier than air.

My unit is corona discharge. The brand doesn’t matter.

I treat my saddle.

I bought my unit online. It’s large. I treat homes with it as a side business. When I take it to camp I can treat everyone’s gear at once.
20 min is good.

Here’s a picture of the mask I use.

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[Tom Karrow]

wow, thanks! what unit do you recommend and what does ozone smell like?

 

[fawnzy]

Ozone smells like the air after a light rain in the summer or like clean unsecured laundry.

Unless you are going to use it for other purposes, you won’t need more than a 500mg/hr unit.
I don’t think the brand will matter but remember you do get what you pay for. Just search it on amazon. You should be able to dind something suitable for under $300


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[GCTerpfan]

fawnzy appears to know more about it than I do but, I bought two of these with a gift card I had: https://www.amazon.com/WHITETAILR-1006839-WhitetailR-ScentPURGE-50/dp/B0058WEWGS
I think they were like $40/unit and one would probably do be enough.

I have both of them hanging in a large portable closet on my back porch similar to this: https://www.amazon.com/LEESONS-Ligh...d=1509712187&sr=1-10&keywords=portable+closet

I keep all of my clothes, gloves, socks, hats, etc. organized in the closet. My scent lok coveralls are in there also but I keep them zipped up in a scent proof bag. I let the units run 24/7 during hunting season but, my back porch is basically 3 walls of windows and I keep most of them cracked open.

It works well for me. The only complaint I have is there is no heat on my porch so it is pretty chilly getting dressed some mornings.

 

[Ontariofarmer]

https://www.amazon.ca/Ozone-Power-OP3500-Commercial-Generator/dp/B00AXB8DOG

$119. I bought one a year ago like this. It seems to work


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[Tom Karrow]

https://www.amazon.ca/Ozone-Power-OP3500-Commercial-Generator/dp/B00AXB8DOG

$119. I bought one a year ago like this. It seems to work


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How often are you washing your hunting clothes if you are also using ozone?
I got busted the other evening and I am pretty scent regimented. I wash every 2-3 hunts. Have a small Whitetailr 50 in a bin that I run in the car when travelling to spots. I may have gotten too hot on the walk in.
T

 

[redsquirrel]

Some questions re ozone from ozone users.

A. what type of generator are you using?
B. Where did you get it?
C. For the Ozone DIY... does ozone weight more than other gases in air. Will it settle over clothing in a bin or rise through them?
D. How do you treat your boots if they are rubber or neoprene?
E. Do you treat your saddle?

F. How long does scent stay on a surface? I am sure many variables affect this, like temp., humidity., porosity etc. Any known studies on this though?


Thanks, Tom

I don't like the whitetail'r, I bought 2, a small one and a bigger one. They didn't seem to produce enough ozone for me to feel it was effective.

A: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00K70QDJA/ref=oh_aui_search_detailpage?ie=UTF8&psc=1
B. Amazon
C. Ozone is heavier than air. I pipe it into the top of a sealed storage bin and let it settle over everything in there.
D. I do not treat anything with rubber or neoprene anymore. I destroyed a couple pairs of boots with it.
E. I treat my saddle.
F. I don't know about this.

 

[GCTerpfan]

How often are you washing your hunting clothes if you are also using ozone?
I got busted the other evening and I am pretty scent regimented. I wash every 2-3 hunts. Have a small Whitetailr 50 in a bin that I run in the car when travelling to spots. I may have gotten too hot on the walk in.

I wash my clothes a couple times a season or if I get sweaty on a hunt. In my experience you will never be completely scent free. Using ozone as part of a serious scent control regiment has seemed to make the instances of when I get busted more of a "somethings not right, lets move away from here" and not a full blown "stomping, snorting blow up the woods" reaction. If I get hot and sweat on the walk in then the scent control regiment pretty well went out the window.

This year I bought a set of Scent Lok Savannah coveralls, I use ozone on all of my clothes except the scent lok then I wear my scent lok coveralls as my outer layer. The jury is still out on this method, I haven't been busted yet but, haven't had any deer downwind to witness their reactions.

 

[fawnzy]

Ozone is not a guarantee. It only kills odour when giving treatment. After that, sweat, breath, car smells.......can all come into play. It will reduce your odour.
If you sweat going in, have you tried walking in in just your base layer then changing into a dry layer at the tree. (Make sure to bag the sweaty stuff in a big ziploc.) I even bring a small towel for my hair and bag it too. I don’t dress in the heavier layers until I’ve cooled off.
I’ll prep the climb in my undies if I have to. Gets a little chilly sometimes. I don’t want to start a climb already warm in heavy clothing and be a gym sock at the top.
I switch to scent free detergent a month before the hunt so my machine is as scent free as I can get it before washing my gear. I also ban dryer sheets.
I’ll wash for blood.
The Ozone helps at camp. We have electricity but no washer/dryer. Our dryer is the sun or fireplace in the main lodge. Clothes usually end up smelling like whatever is in the kitchen.
Once dry I Ozone in the screened porch of a near by cabin and the leave my stuff there til morning.


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[redsquirrel]

@Tom Karrow, I don't use ozone on any of my clothing either. I just wash it. I will use it on my backpack because it is quicker to throw it in the bin sometimes. Like @fawnzy said, ozone is just a tool in my scent control regimen.

 

[Tom Karrow]

Ozone is not a guarantee. It only kills odour when giving treatment. After that, sweat, breath, car smells.......can all come into play. It will reduce your odour.
If you sweat going in, have you tried walking in in just your base layer then changing into a dry layer at the tree. (Make sure to bag the sweaty stuff in a big ziploc.) I even bring a small towel for my hair and bag it too. I don’t dress in the heavier layers until I’ve cooled off.
I’ll prep the climb in my undies if I have to. Gets a little chilly sometimes. I don’t want to start a climb already warm in heavy clothing and be a gym sock at the top.
I switch to scent free detergent a month before the hunt so my machine is as scent free as I can get it before washing my gear. I also ban dryer sheets.
I’ll wash for blood.
The Ozone helps at camp. We have electricity but no washer/dryer. Our dryer is the sun or fireplace in the main lodge. Clothes usually end up smelling like whatever is in the kitchen.
Once dry I Ozone in the screened porch of a near by cabin and the leave my stuff there til morning.


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Yes, I always dress light for entry. Tough with long walks, cold weather and long sits. I have also found transitioning to a saddle tough to regulate the bottom half since I cannot put heavier pants on in the saddle... or not yet at least.

 

[fawnzy]

The best I’ve been able to do in the cold is layer up just before the climb.
It is tough in the cold. Some of my walks are :05 min others are 1:30.
I can do the walks faster but choose to go slow. I let my body tell me the speed. I try to stay just above being cold. I find not much difference in effort between not shivering and sweating. There are definitely hills that heat me up. I have to take my time or get sweaty. If I heat up my glasses fog. That’s a total pain.
If I don’t make it in before light, I’m ok with that. I’d rather be able to see where I’m going and remain as quiet and scent free as possible.


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[Ontariofarmer]

I have not perfected scent control. I try not to sweat but do. I use ozone in 9 by 9 room in my shed on everything but rubber. I use scent lok. I sweat. I wear too much walking in. Details Details. I do my best but was busted Wednesday night. I was sweaty going in.

Coming out my gps stopped working right. So I pulled out my compass I had not checked my compass in a few years. It did not work right. Finally I used my phone. I got disoriented and lost in a nice swamp and more sweat because of a longer walk out. So I washed everything for the first time in a month. Probably 15 hunts. I have put my scent lok stuff in the drier a few times probably every 5 hunts.

 

[Tom Karrow]

I have not perfected scent control. I try not to sweat but do. I use ozone in 9 by 9 room in my shed on everything but rubber. I use scent lok. I sweat. I wear too much walking in. Details Details. I do my best but was busted Wednesday night. I was sweaty going in.

Coming out my gps stopped working right. So I pulled out my compass I had not checked my compass in a few years. It did not work right. Finally I used my phone. I got disoriented and lost in a nice swamp and more sweat because of a longer walk out. So I washed everything for the first time in a month. Probably 15 hunts. I have put my scent lok stuff in the drier a few times probably every 5 hunts.

Oh man, sorry you got lost! I will never forget going into a small bush to recover a deer I had taken. I knew where he was but I left to get help dragging him out. With my help stationary, I began walking towards what I thought was the deer. After a little while I noticed a light in front of me, which was alarming. I was worried someone else had found my deer and was trespassing. I immediately stopped and was shocked to hear my friend call out to me from the direction of the light. He had not moved, but I had walked a complete circle in the darkness ending up behind him! Darkness can be disorienting!

Thanks for all the Ozone education everyone. I think the unit I have simply does not produce enough, so I will upgrade and move forward.
Tom

 

[bowhunter15]

Here's the 500mg/hr unit I've been using. It can be bought and assembled for under $15 bucks, but you'll pay a little more if you want it shipped quickly: https://rover.ebay.com/rover/0/0/0?mpre=https://www.ebay.com/ulk/itm/172563583636

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[fawnzy]

My camp has had 3 guys get lost in the big woods. As it turns out, none of them new how to use gps or map and compass.
One of the guys got lucky and stumbled out onto a road, one was found be our most experienced hunter, and the third walked close enough to me in the woods I could call to him, so I did.
I was just sitting off the main trail we use. He was so disorientated he didn’t know who I was and wanted to know how I knew his name.
When I told him who I was he recognized me but looked even more confused and wanted to know why I wasn’t in the right place.
When I told him where we were he wouldn’t believe me. I told him to walk 100 yards down the trail and he would see the bridge. When he did, he kept going, went back to camp, packed up and went home. He never came back. It must have really scared him. I was the first in camp to use gps, he was the most critical of me. I also keep a map and compass with me and have taken the time to use my gps and write down bearings and distances from stand to stand and also from stands to exit in a small booklet. I also have a generic bearing I use to find the highway if the worst should happen and I get lost.


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[Ontariofarmer]

My camp has had 3 guys get lost in the big woods. As it turns out, none of them new how to use gps or map and compass.
One of the guys got lucky and stumbled out onto a road, one was found be our most experienced hunter, and the third walked close enough to me in the woods I could call to him, so I did.
I was just sitting off the main trail we use. He was so disorientated he didn’t know who I was and wanted to know how I knew his name.
When I told him who I was he recognized me but looked even more confused and wanted to know why I wasn’t in the right place.
When I told him where we were he wouldn’t believe me. I told him to walk 100 yards down the trail and he would see the bridge. When he did, he kept going, went back to camp, packed up and went home. He never came back. It must have really scared him. I was the first in camp to use gps, he was the most critical of me. I also keep a map and compass with me and have taken the time to use my gps and write down bearings and distances from stand to stand and also from stands to exit in a small booklet. I also have a generic bearing I use to find the highway if the worst should happen and I get lost.


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I figured out why my compass did not work. I had a new magnetic grappling hook - gear grappler in a chest pocket of my packet so north was always towards my chest. At least I had my phone that did not fail me.
I always carry a gps, compass and phone. I needed all three that night.

 

[fawnzy]

I had a similar experience using mitts with magnetic fold back flaps.
Could make my compass point north. Luckily, I had my GPS. I didn’t figure it out until I got home. Still have the mitts, no magnets.


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