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Ropeman one as an ascender

noxninja

noxninja

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I got a new climbing method that I am working on. I basically have two tethers. One that I am clipped into with my RCH and the other tether below that one that I have my stirrups clipped into. The basic result is a sit down stand up method of climbing. Both tethers are 11mm static. Would repeated sliding up and down on the rope cause unecessary wear thereby compromising integrity?? This method may not be new, but I got the idea from watching a guy using an ascender and one foot loop.
 
noxninja said:
I got a new climbing method that I am working on. I basically have two tethers. One that I am clipped into with my RCH and the other tether below that one that I have my stirrups clipped into. The basic result is a sit down stand up method of climbing. Both tethers are 11mm static. Would repeated sliding up and down on the rope cause unecessary wear thereby compromising integrity?? This method may not be new, but I got the idea from watching a guy using an ascender and one foot loop.
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I did something similar last year. I said I would make a video but came down with @redsquirrel syndrome. Something you might (or might not) want to consider is I used an extra long tether for the tether I attached my stirrups to and I attached my stirrups to the tether with a ropeman. I then took the tag end of the extra long tether and brought it up and attached it to my RCH gear loop. This allowed me to simply pull up on the tag end of the tether which advanced my stirrups up the rope. I also had my RCH attached with a Ropeman. I could move both tethers up the tree as far as I could reach and then could get 2-3 moves using the ropemen on the tethers before I had to advance the tethers again. It actually worked pretty slick but, before I could mess with it anymore I scavenged the tethers for other projects. Just wanted to thow that out there in case it helped you in anyway.
 
@GCTerpfan Yes this is exactly what I am talking about. The first time I tried it I had a smaller tether for my stirrups. The one that I have now is the same length as my RCH tether. I am going to try that one today, and if that doesn't work better, I do have one other tether that is longer that I can try. I hypothesize that I should be able to get to top tether height in two motions. I am going to see if I can find some O rings large enough that I can cinch the stirrup to the top of my boot. Not as much of a problem going up but going down I noticed that I had to watch to make sure my foot had not come out of the loop due to slack.
 
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@GCTerpfan Yes this is exactly what I am talking about. The first time I tried it I had a smaller tether for my stirrups. The one that I have now is the same length as my RCH tether. I am going to try that one today, and if that doesn't work better, I do have one other tether that is longer that I can try. I hypothesize that I should be able to get to top tether height in two motions. I am going to see if I can find some O rings large enough that I can cinch the stirrup to the top of my boot. Not as much of a problem going up but going down I noticed that I had to watch to make sure my foot had not come out of the loop due to slack.
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It worked pretty slick when I tried it. I needed better stirrups, I had just rigged a cam strap up as a set but, I got up and down the tree pretty quick and could go as high as I wanted with just the weight of one extra tether. I hope you can perfect it. One other thing thing that I did was tied a piece of paracord to the release on the ropeman and also attached it to the gear loop. This allowed me to move the ropeman down the rope if I needed to also. Good luck and make a video when you are done. ;)
 
Thanks will do on the video. I like your idea on the paracord and if I am understanding correctly, it could serve as a recovery method as well, if by chance the tether got away and tried to slide down the tree when not engaged.
 
Here is a really bad drawing off what I did that hopefully explains it better. Obviously the two tether are both around the tree, I just separated them for clarity in the drawing. The tag end of the stirrup tether and the piece paracord which was attached to the ropeman's release, were both attached to the gear loop on the RCH. You could pull up on the tether and advance the ropeman up and pull up on the paracord and advance the ropeman down. Hope that makes sense.

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I tried messing with this a little last year. I used a tether for me and a tether for a 5 step aider. Because the aider was right against the tree, it was tough to get your foot in it. It was also tough to be stable. However if used with a stirrup so your foot is always in it, that might work.
 
I've been doing this all season with my tether connected to my kestrel, and using a hand-climber on my feet. My tether is Predator.
 
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