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Shotgun saddle mount? Rifled barrel?

Mschmeiske

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I’ve considered adding a saddle mount to my shotgun or buying a cantilever rifled barrel so I can add a red dot. I’m looking to play with slugs and see how far I can push the effective range. Im curious if any of you have used saddle mounts and how they hold up as far as keeping point of aim? Do you notice a big difference in accuracy out to 75-100yards between a smooth bore vs rifled? Anyone use a rifled choke in a smooth bore? My shotgun is a Remington 870 express magnum 20g. Thanks in advance for any feedback! Hope everyone’s doing well.
 
I had a cantilever rifled barrel on a Remington 11-87 that was dead on for over a decade shooting Lightfield slugs. 0-125 yards was very easy with that gun. Huge difference in accuracy from rifled and smooth bore guns. I now shoot a Savage 220 (20 gauge rifled bolt action shotgun) and could push to 200 yards with it
 
I’d go with the cantilever barrel.

I used a b square saddle on my Winchester 120 pump. Chambering a new round was difficult. Never confirmed but my theory was that the pin that held the saddle through the receiver or the tension knobs didn’t play well with the receiver.

I could play with the tension it would help but who wants a loose fitting optic. Racking a new shell like I was about to kick a door in with Seal Team 6 worked 75% of the time, but again the tension had to be just right. My dad said it was the high brass vs low brass, but I’m convinced it was the saddle.


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I’m not a 20 gauge guy so I won’t get into the ballistics here to to much but my personal opinion/experiences with saddle mounts are all negative. I feel like they don’t ever give you a rail spacing to make and optic fit “comfortably” I will also add here that if you’re putting any sort of optic on a shotgun I would always go with a scope. My eyes are ****. I tried the red dot route and it was worst than iron sights. Unless you were thinking magnified red dot that I cannot speak for. So all in all the long answer to your question is I would for rifled barrel with a 4x scope and shoot hornady sst’s
 
I had a cantilever rifled barrel on a Remington 11-87 that was dead on for over a decade shooting Lightfield slugs. 0-125 yards was very easy with that gun. Huge difference in accuracy from rifled and smooth bore guns. I now shoot a Savage 220 (20 gauge rifled bolt action shotgun) and could push to 200 yards with it
There’s guys that shoot out to 300 with those 220’s it’s insane a buddy of mine has one and it’s such a nice shooting gun
 
There’s guys that shoot out to 300 with those 220’s it’s insane a buddy of mine has one and it’s such a nice shooting gun
Yep, I'm just not that comfortable nor practice enough for such distance. The gun is capable.
 
I have had good luck with the cantilevered rifle barrel in Remington 870 Express 12 gauge. Never had a good experience with a saddle mount on 3 different guns. The rifle barrel was good to 125 yards for me. Anything beyond, not consistent enough for my conscience.
 
I live near a shotgun only WMA so I’m always either using a muzzleloader or shotgun during gun season. Never had the saddle on my shotgun. But I did go from a smooth bore for rifled slugs then to a fully rifled barrel with cantilever scope mount and now I’ve gotten rid of all of them for a smokeless muzzleloader which I will use through the whole shot gun season. The slugs got way too expensive and I hated practicing with them. The smokeless muzzleloader shoots cheap 40 or 45 cal bullets of any kind and I love practicing with it and therefore finally got competent with a gun for a change rather than firing 2 slugs before season to verify the scope was still on. Side note, I did kill quite a few deer with the cantilever mount barrel. I’d switch it on and off my 12 gauge throughout the year and it held zero just fine.
 
I will admit first off I have one of these for sale on the classifieds right now so the bias will be inherent any way you look at my response so now that’s been disclosed I will tell you my experience and thoughts and recommendations. If you are looking for the most accurate slug shooting shotgun than the saddle mounts are NOT the way to go, cantilever is the best as the scope and breech are already automatic aligned. There is no play between the receiver, scope and barrel like there would be with a saddle type mount. So if your goal is tackdriving slugster, don’t do the saddle mount. However, in my area of NY we were only allowed to hunt deer with shotguns up until about 10 years ago so I’ve hunted and harvested a lot of deer with shotguns over the years. I used a saddle mount for several years for both deer and Turkey and predators and with in normal effective slug range, they do add a dimension to your shooting that improves your ability to more effectively harvest game. Especially as you age. For a low cost investment in better sighting for deer or patterning for turkeys or coyote and fox, I think the are a plus. For those that have experienced ejection problems, the bolts holding the mount to the receiver are clearly too tight. Simply loosen them an 1/8 turn or so until your action is freed and you can cycle rounds effectively. I’ve never had issues with my mount loosening or not being able to cycle the action. Where these mounts really begin to shine is for red dots or for predator and turkey guns. You are shooting shot or buckshot and so patterning to 40 yards or so depending on your gauge, load and choke will all be easily incorporated into the value of the mount with a red dot or something similarly fast pointing. I hope this makes sense.
 
Cantilever mounts are more accurate since they eliminate the possibility of play between the barrel and receiver. I've got a Weaver saddle mount on my 870 and D&T receiver on my Mossberg, but only run red dots on them. My only gripe with the cantilever mounts is the height of the optic, I need to build up the stock to get a decent cheek weld. I've got a Magpul shotgun stock on my 870 with cheek riser and LOP spacers that I really like.
 
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