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Silencing my Mission platform with neoprene.

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Electrical tape will lose its adhesion, shrink, and become brittle with cold weather.
 

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Will it be squeaky on your boots?

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I bought a sheet of neoprene for less than $10. 12inch by 54 inch in camo. I cut 1 inch strips and wrapped my platform. Dead silent. Easy. Camo, and soft to the touch.
It looks good but perhaps instead of electric tape, use bostik 2402 to bond the neoprene to its self? It’s a 2 part bonding adhesive that is cold curing and keeps flexibility unlike epoxy. If I am not mistaken, It’s the stuff inflatable tube manufacturers use on rubber rafts and tubes.
 

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Neoprene has a tendency to get extremely raunchy in wet suits. It's some kinda nasty.
Not sure if it will with this application but just be aware and give it the sniff test occasionally. I wouldn't make it permanent until I was sure it isnt gonna stink.
 

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Neoprene has a tendency to get extremely raunchy in wet suits. It's some kinda nasty.
Not sure if it will with this application but just be aware and give it the sniff test occasionally. I wouldn't make it permanent until I was sure it isnt gonna stink.
We always hang out wetsuits up and let them dry after we use them. Never had a raunchy wetsuit yet. I do know guys that take theirs off put it in the back of the truck and forget about until the next day. Theirs get sour but it’s nothing a gentle run through the wash wouldn’t fix. My advice is you wouldn’t put your saddle or your nylon straps away wet, if he uses neoprene just don’t put it away wet and the problem of raunchiness would be eliminated
 

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We always hang out wetsuits up and let them dry after we use them. Never had a raunchy wetsuit yet. I do know guys that take theirs off put it in the back of the truck and forget about until the next day. Theirs get sour but it’s nothing a gentle run through the wash wouldn’t fix. My advice is you wouldn’t put your saddle or your nylon straps away wet, if he uses neoprene just don’t put it away wet and the problem of raunchiness would be eliminated
I never put neoprene away wet and I have experienced nasty stench from certain neoprene garments, most notably paddle shoes.
Dry neoprene doesn't stink like wet neoprene does but when it gets wet again (if it hasn't been laundered) the stink can return.
I'm not saying that the OP shouldn't experiment with neoprene for his project. I do believe there are better materials than neoprene for silencing a stand.
I said in my earlier post that I am not implying that it will stink for the OPs intended use, I was just saying to be aware of the possibility.
 

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I never put neoprene away wet and I have experienced nasty stench from certain neoprene garments, most notably paddle shoes.
Dry neoprene doesn't stink like wet neoprene does but when it gets wet again (if it hasn't been laundered) the stink can return.
I'm not saying that the OP shouldn't experiment with neoprene for his project. I do believe there are better materials than neoprene for silencing a stand.
I said in my earlier post that I am not implying that it will stink for the OPs intended use, I was just saying to be aware of the possibility.
Gotcha. And I agree there are better materials for padding/silencing and adding grip. But neoprene is pretty commonly used for rifle straps and back bands. They get wet. I guess I’ve just been lucky not to experience it stinking (there again your are referring to shoes which typically stink regardless of material). So what would you use to silence the mission or whichever platform? Perhaps paracord?
 

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Gotcha. And I agree there are better materials for padding/silencing and adding grip. But neoprene is pretty commonly used for rifle straps and back bands. They get wet. I guess I’ve just been lucky not to experience it stinking (there again your are referring to shoes which typically stink regardless of material). So what would you use to silence the mission or whichever platform? Perhaps paracord?
I'm suspicious that neoprene has the tendency to exaggerate odors to some degree. In some cases like paddle shoes the degree can be extreme. But with other applications, is the odor exaggerated to a lesser extent to the detection of the human nose? Just because we humans cannot smell it doesn't mean that deer wont smell it. I know this is teetering on the odor debate and there are tons of opinions on the subject.
I personally believe there is a lot of intangibles that we may never sort out. So with that in mind, I always take the paranoid approach when it comes to odor.
And neoprene being a porous material does have the tendency to absorb and hold odors.
And if its used to pad a stand, then its not easily laundered and thoroughly rinsed out. My gut is that neoprene won't be as odor free as bare metal.
I have 2 types of saddle platforms. My Predators which are for run and gun style hunting and my homemade platforms for pre-sets which don't need padded. The Preds in my experience are also pretty quiet. The only issue is the metal buckle which I manage pretty well.
I wouldnt feel the need to silence a platform, but if I were to, I think that I would experiment with rubber. I'd try to configure it as a wrap (similar to paracord wrap) but the rubber is non porous and will have less tendency to hold odors.
Btw, I feel the same way about boots. I much prefer a rubber upper than a neoprene upper like Muck style boots use. I can scrub and rinse rubber boots squeaky clean but its not so easy to completely rinse soap out of neoprene.
I think the same concept applies to other gear including stand paddling.
 

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I'm suspicious that neoprene has the tendency to exaggerate odors to some degree. In some cases like paddle shoes the degree can be extreme. But with other applications, is the odor exaggerated to a lesser extent to the detection of the human nose? Just because we humans cannot smell it doesn't mean that deer wont smell it. I know this is teetering on the odor debate and there are tons of opinions on the subject.
I personally believe there is a lot of intangibles that we may never sort out. So with that in mind, I always take the paranoid approach when it comes to odor.
And neoprene being a porous material does have the tendency to absorb and hold odors.
And if its used to pad a stand, then its not easily laundered and thoroughly rinsed out. My gut is that neoprene won't be as odor free as bare metal.
I have 2 types of saddle platforms. My Predators which are for run and gun style hunting and my homemade platforms for pre-sets which don't need padded. The Preds in my experience are also pretty quiet. The only issue is the metal buckle which I manage pretty well.
I wouldnt feel the need to silence a platform, but if I were to, I think that I would experiment with rubber. I'd try to configure it as a wrap (similar to paracord wrap) but the rubber is non porous and will have less tendency to hold odors.
Btw, I feel the same way about boots. I much prefer a rubber upper than a neoprene upper like Muck style boots use. I can scrub and rinse rubber boots squeaky clean but its not so easy to completely rinse soap out of neoprene.
I think the same concept applies to other gear including stand paddling.
I see what you’re saying. We have a couple predator platforms and an OOAL ridge runner. My run and gun is ROS with some camo stealth tape on them. Light and silent. I asked about materials you suggest because most use paracord. Paracord is nylon which is also very porous. It absorbs and hold water as well. While rubber doesn’t absorb water in the you can ring it out sense, it does however hold odors to an almost alarming degree for a while. Most odors are trapped in the from of VOC’s and rubber naturally holds onto VOC’s. Over time the smell will fade but with rubber it smells wet or dry. I like your paracord response and personally it’s what I would use but I’m not under the pretenses that neoprene is any more moisture or order absorbing than nylon.
 

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I see what you’re saying. We have a couple predator platforms and an OOAL ridge runner. My run and gun is ROS with some camo stealth tape on them. Light and silent. I asked about materials you suggest because most use paracord. Paracord is nylon which is also very porous. It absorbs and hold water as well. While rubber doesn’t absorb water in the you can ring it out sense, it does however hold odors to an almost alarming degree for a while. Most odors are trapped in the from of VOC’s and rubber naturally holds onto VOC’s. Over time the smell will fade but with rubber it smells wet or dry. I like your paracord response and personally it’s what I would use but I’m not under the pretenses that neoprene is any more moisture or order absorbing than nylon.
I would just leave them unpadded metal. If contact with other metal like a buckle is a concern, I would address that rather than try to pad an entire stand.

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I have a neoprene sauna suit that I wear when I work out, as long as I wash it with some gentle detergent and let it hang-dry, it hasn't started to sweat yet and I've peeled it off me like a wet garbage bag before. I would say just make sure you hit it with the water hose real good each time you're done with it and then hang it somewhere it can air-dry and you'll probably be okay. Otherwise maybe once a week hit it with some kind of like, Scent-Killer soap or whatever your preferred brand is and then let it air dry. Shouldn't be an unfixable issue.
 
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