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Some thoughts for new saddle hunters

Peterk1234

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The good ole days thread has me thinking. We are closing in on hunting season everywhere and it looks like a lot of people are just about to give saddle hunting a go.

I am a new saddle hunter. I do not have a hunting season under my belt yet. However, I have been learning, testing, modifying, and most importantly, practicing a lot. I thought it may help if a newbie shared some experiences. I think I started in February or March when there was still snow on the ground.

I found that most of my research focused on climbing method. I was interested in saddle hunting because I needed mobility. Well, the biggest part of the mobility question is how the heck do you get up the tree. Most people that have a really good system (and cannot drill holes into trees) supplement their system with some sort of an aider. For me it is the swaider/knaider (but I am biased) coupled with Wild Edge Steps. Aiders add a level of risk. When used properly, they are rock solid, as good as the primary climbing system. However, it takes practice. You need to get out there and climb before the season starts. That straight tree in your yard, you know, the one you are so familiar with that you know ever piece of bark on it, does not count. I used my system all Spring and Summer while scouting. I can tell you from experience, it is a different ball game the minute you climb an unfamiliar tree, alone, in the woods, for the first time. Branches, angles and other obstructions all come into play. You have to be able to totally trust your system. Also, practice does not mean climbing up six feet then coming down. You need to go to climbing height, and then some. Close your eyes, practice in the dark, and most important, practice with all your gear. Wear your pack, all your clothes and those big bulky boots.

Climb safe. No high risk moves with these aiders. Kickout is a real risk. Abrupt moves, or not being properly weighted, increase the risk significantly. Saddle hunting has taught me the obvious importance and safety of being tied in. It is part of the system while hanging but not when you climb. Theoretically, I linemans belt slows you down a bit, especially when branches come into play, but man do they work well. Additionally, I found that they add so much stability when climbing and also reduce the pressure on my legs when going up and down. And, I basically do not use my arms at all to help me up or down. The arms can just be used for stability and as additional anchor/safety points. Which leads me to another point...............

Three points of contact at all times. One foot and two hands or two feet and one hand always on something secure. It is better than a tether :)

Get some hang time in the saddle. Actually, get a lot of hang time in the saddle. Start at near ground level. Figure out what is comfortable for you. Mess with bridge lengths, tether lengths and how far to lean. Maybe you just like to sit; that's okay as well. Move around the tree. Figure out how tether length affects your mobility. Do it on different diameter trees. Big trees will significantly impact your movement around the tree. Commit to an hour or so at least once you think you have your perfect position. Even that is not long enough, but it will help.

Now go to full height. This is a game changer. I have no fear of heights and even I was like, "whoa, that is a bit weird". Hanging out there on a string at twenty five feet is very different than doing it at two feet. Once you think you are comfortable, go into the woods. Now try it on a tree you have never climbed before. Are you still comfortable? You won't be.

Practice shooting. Do it often. Try every position. You have to figure out weight distribution, where to put feet, hips or knees against the tree. Don't go hunting thinking this is the easy part. Nothing like having a nice buck come up on you, then you rotate to position, have no clue what you are doing and end up swinging around the tree. Which reminds me........ try some trees that are not perfectly straight. I will just leave that one here for everyone to ponder.

Finally, practice like you are going hunting. What are you wearing from the truck? What will you put on at the tree? Where are you hanging your sticks or steps as you climb? Where are other things being clipped or stored? How will you hang your bow and other stuff? Set it all up. Is any of the stuff in your way when you try to shoot?

I am sure there are a bunch of things I am forgetting. I just wanted to put it out there that it is not as simple as a climber. It has taken me several months to become familiar with everything and get to the point where I know I can go out in the dark and get set up quickly and safely. I easily have over a 100 climbs under my belt at this juncture, and I have yet to draw on an animal. I am a slow learner. Pete
 
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Excellent post, Pete. I started transitioning from a climber two years ago and into a saddle late last year and went through the same learning curve and backyard practice. The mobile climbing is a huge transition. And the most dangerous part. Once you nail that, the saddle vs. hang-on is really a pretty easy transition. I've spent countless hours in the basement trying different stacking and packing options to optimize my mobility. My neighbors have to think I am insane as often as I am climbing trees in the backyard. Nothing really to add, you nailed it. The work you put in will dictate the results you get out of it.

I will say fitness too. Ok we don't need to go all #whitetailfit here. But there is a base level of athleticism it takes to climb, some methods more so than others. Some of the more extreme aider options take a fairly high level of technical skill and athleticism. Throw in a wet or icy tree in hunting clothes and boots, exhausted and stiff after hanging out for 6 hours...keep in mind that is a whole other level than backyard practice in gym shorts.

Always have a plan B. You gotta know what could go wrong in your system and how you are going to get down safely when that does happen.
 
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Dude - you are on the the brighter spots on this site. You have a great attitude and a great mind at problem solving. I personally think WE should offer you a royalty as I know your thoughts sold a bunch of WE steps.

Kind words, thank you. Hopefully WE is getting inundated with orders. Small companies with great attitudes and passion are the backbone of this country. I would settle for a stack of steps though so I can set up a bunch of platforms :)
 
My first full season in a saddle! Your posts have helped me tremendously! Thanks
 
great post - I've definitely found that creating a system, with a specific order of actions is way more important in this style of hunting than lock on / climber hunting. That includes how you have your gear packed and how / when you will access it. I've spent pre-season rethinking how I'll position everything on the pack and saddle. There is a lot going on and it's easy to get out of sequence. I've just accepted the fact that I'll be slow for a while and eventually will get quicker as it's more instinctive.
 
Great post @Peterk1234. While reading through it, I was thinking about what @kelly.jayp mentioned - practice doesn't just get you used to your climbing method and hanging from a saddle, it is also when you refine your gear hauling system. Do you like pouches attached to your saddle or do you put everything in a backpack? Do you like your tether in a pouch on your left side or your right? What if you have to cut a branch on the way up - where will your saw or pruners be so they are easily accessible? It takes some time to figure out what works for you but each thing you figure out makes you a little bit more efficient, faster and quieter. I am still trying different little things and tweaking my system after 10 years of saddle hunting! It's part of the fun, I think.
 
Throw in a wet or icy tree in hunting clothes and boots, exhausted and stiff after hanging out for 6 hours...keep in mind that is a whole other level than backyard practice in gym shorts.

Always have a plan B. You gotta know what could go wrong in your system and how you are going to get down safely when that does happen.

This can not be overstated! What you can do in the Summer in shorts is totally different than deer season when you're trying to move slow and quiet. You have to be dedicated if you want to hunt mobile. It doesn't matter what system you use...climber, lock-on, saddle...they all take practice and dedication to do it quietly, efficiently, and safely.
 
This can not be overstated! What you can do in the Summer in shorts is totally different than deer season when you're trying to move slow and quiet. You have to be dedicated if you want to hunt mobile. It doesn't matter what system you use...climber, lock-on, saddle...they all take practice and dedication to do it quietly, efficiently, and safely.
I've tried almost every climbing method. How many times have I said that it was great and easy in the backyard but it wasn't practical or just didn't work for me in the woods. Big difference!
 
@Peterk1234, GREAT POST!
Lots of helpful advice. Going to be a first time saddle hunter this year, but still waiting on everything to arrive. So, I am going to be switching back and forth from lock-on to saddle. After getting everything in and doing the backyard familiarizing with the system. I have always found it easier to set up in the daylight and take down in the dark. So, it will be afternoon sits for me until I build up the confidence to set up in dark O'30.

On the Wild Edge, I couldn't agree more on being a solid company in my dealings with them so far on my order. Still in the backyard stage with the steps but going to be taking them out to the woods for some test runs with a stand very soon.
 
My first saddle year as well(Sit Drag mod), I've done a couple test climbs to hunting height, practiced drawing my bow at a mess of different angles/positions. I've been hunting for almost 30 years and I can tell already I'm going to be way safer hunting a saddle then any of my pre-set portables or mobile strike portable just for the fact I'm using a linemans belt for the first time this year. That is the slickest thing there is, its a dream setting up sticks and the platform when you dont have to hang on to the tree with one arm. The Ropeman 1 is the best piece of my entire saddle setup.
 
@elk yinzer , you bring up a great point regarding a plan B. I carry two spare whoopie slings. Whoever inventing that thing is a freakin' genius; I use them for everything. But let's suppose a step uncams for some reason or just goes totally loose. I can take my tether and go Redsquirrel style. Put tether around the tree, clip in one or two whoopies to the Ropeman and down I go to the next rung. I tried it for the heck of it. It works.
 
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