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Nutterbuster

Nutterbuster

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Where the skys are so blue!
We got fun and games all right. Nothing like scouting flooded timber in January and finding Hissy Prissy Nope Ropes dangling at eye level.

Last pic is what it looks like in the "dry" season.
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I’d wasted two shells on snakes that’s for sure. Nice haul otherwise!! Congrats
 
swampsnyper said:
I hate over head snakes.
You kill those squirrels from the boat?
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Just used it to get across the lake that day. Usually you can walk the island behind my house no problem.

I'm going back tomorrow to try out a DIY, ultralight deke spreader and will most likely have to stay in the boat because I'm not agile enough to re-enter it in chest-high water.

I've been watching woodies swim just inside the treeline for probably 3 weekends now while grilling on my porch. Hopefully their pattern will hold, and I can get setup in the dark without having two anaconda's in my lap. ;)
 
Back home, in La, a lot of guys squirrel hunt from a boat that’s why I asked. I’ve shot them while wadding for wood ducks but never from a boat. The guys with squirrel dogs will drop them off on the ridges and follow them with the boat and shoot treed squirrels. Lots of black squirrels over down there.
 
Glad I’m not the only one who has to deal with those guys. Nothing like coming face to face with a cottonmouth while climbing out of a irrigation ditch.

Way to battle through adversity haha
 
swampsnyper said:
Back home, in La, a lot of guys squirrel hunt from a boat that’s why I asked. I’ve shot them while wadding for wood ducks but never from a boat. The guys with squirrel dogs will drop them off on the ridges and follow them with the boat and shoot treed squirrels. Lots of black squirrels over down there.
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I float-shoot a fair amount.
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@Nutterbuster do you think a sit in kayak is better for hunting than a sit on? I’ve never sat in a kayak but am going to get one for hunting and fishing this spring. I’ve had a canoe that was many moons ago
 
fbwguy said:
@Nutterbuster do you think a sit in kayak is better for hunting than a sit on? I’ve never sat in a kayak but am going to get one for hunting and fishing this spring. I’ve had a canoe that was many moons ago
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I don't know that you'll find a lot of folks that agree with me if you research it, but i think canoes trump sit-ins, and sit-ins trump sit-ons.

Sit-ons are popular with folks that want their kayak to be a boat. To me they are very expensive hybrids that inherit the worst of both worlds. My Pungo in the pics weighs 40lbs and I can paddle it all day. I can launch it anywhere, and carry a quartered deer or a half dozen dekes in it. It's light, fast, agile, and simple. I love it. Wish they still made them in camo, but now only their "hunting" sit-ons have that color.

I have sold a lot of boats and taken a lot of guys hunting. Almost every time I take a guy in a sit on I end up having to help them load/unload their boat and wait on them to catch up to me paddling.
 
Nutterbuster said:
I don't know that you'll find a lot of folks that agree with me if you research it, but i think canoes trump sit-ins, and sit-ins trump sit-ons.

Sit-ons are popular with folks that want their kayak to be a boat. To me they are very expensive hybrids that inherit the worst of both worlds. My Pungo in the pics weighs 40lbs and I can paddle it all day. I can launch it anywhere, and carry a quartered deer or a half dozen dekes in it. It's light, fast, agile, and simple. I love it. Wish they still made them in camo, but now only their "hunting" sit-ons have that color.

I have sold a lot of boats and taken a lot of guys hunting. Almost every time I take a guy in a sit on I end up having to help them load/unload their boat and wait on them to catch up to me paddling.
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That’s the advice and info I’m looking for. I’m in decent shape for 50, but I don’t want to struggle getting in and out with gear and game. I also don’t want to take a bunch of cold water dunks. Is yours 10’?
 
fbwguy said:
That’s the advice and info I’m looking for. I’m in decent shape for 50, but I don’t want to struggle getting in and out with gear and game. I also don’t want to take a bunch of cold water dunks. Is yours 10’?
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It's a 12' model. 10ft' boats paddle like 55 gallon drums and have insufficient weight capacity to be of any real use.

Longer models paddle beautifully, but are harder to turn and maneuver in tight places. They also tend to run narrower. They're made to make tracks over long distances and are stable enough on the water but trickier to get in and out of. 12 is a nice length for general use.

Kayaking is a physical sport. It's like swimming in that it requires you to use your whole body to really, effectively paddle. It also helps if you're on the lighter side, have joints that don't creak, and have a good sense of balance. That being said, I'm friends with a lot of silver-hairs that paddle every weekend.

PLEASE let your first few trips be on calm water on a warm day. 30*s in waders and a parka is not the time to learn how not to enter a kayak, or exactly where your boat's tipping point is.

Also, I don't know how much canoe experience you have, but they're a perfectly viable option. My 17' Grumman weighs less than most 12' SOT kayaks, will carry almost 1,000lbs, and take an outboard. I can load and paddle it solo, and it has plenty of room for a buddy and his gear.
 
Nutterbuster said:
I don't know that you'll find a lot of folks that agree with me if you research it, but i think canoes trump sit-ins, and sit-ins trump sit-ons.
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the idea of a sit on is attractive. I've been kinda sorta looking at them for an option to access some wet areas around here. Unobtrusive, maneuverable, easily handled by one guy, more accessible cargo area than a sit-in, etc. Seems like a reasonable tradeoff - smaller and more nimble than a canoe, but enough haul space to operate out of easier than a sit in.

But then I looked at their stats. Heavy. Low load capacity. Low gunwales. Not as nimble as you'd hope. More "wrestleable" than ideal.

Really making me think a lot harder on small/light canoes. I want something I can more of less throw on top of a vehicle, drive to my launch point, grab it off, launch and go. Even better if it can take 2 in a pinch, and haul out a deer with quartering optional.

Theory and popular inertia suggest kayak, but scale and specs point otherwise. Like you say the worst of both worlds - heft and bulk exceeding a canoe with load capacity and protection from the elements of a kayak.
 
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