What knot to use?

[NorthwoodsWiscoHnter]

I have some 10 mm accessory rope that I am going to use for my linemans rope. To attach it to my loop on my Tethrd mantis, what knot would be best as far as being safe and strong, use the least amount of rope, and also something that won't be in the way.

I'm thinking of adding a loop at the end of the rope and then using a girth hitch to attach it, but can I use a girth hitch without the loop? Also what knots are good for creating a loop at the end of my rope? I tried a perfection knot which works but the knot itself doesn't seem right for the type of rope I'm using. Seems like the rope may be too stiff. Any insight would be welcomed!

 

[Madgrad02]

In playing around with the bridge length on my Kestrel, I used a figure 8 on a bight to secure the ends... one end girth hitched in and one on a carabiner still. Still relatively new to saddle setups, so if there is something better (outside of splicing in eyes), please chime in as I can see that being my next progression to remove that extra knot bulk.

 

[NorthwoodsWiscoHnter]

In playing around with the bridge length on my Kestrel, I used a figure 8 on a bight to secure the ends... one end girth hitched in and one on a carabiner still. Still relatively new to saddle setups, so if there is something better (outside of splicing in eyes), please chime in as I can see that being my next progression to remove that extra knot bulk.

Yeah I plan on using a ropeman 1 and carabiner on the opposite side of where it's girth hitched. Thanks!

 

[Recurveaholic]

In playing around with the bridge length on my Kestrel, I used a figure 8 on a bight to secure the ends... one end girth hitched in and one on a carabiner still. Still relatively new to saddle setups, so if there is something better (outside of splicing in eyes), please chime in as I can see that being my next progression to remove that extra knot bulk.

This is the norm for the most part and like he said a splice is your only other option!

 

[NorthwoodsWiscoHnter]

thanks guys!

 

[Murph4028]

You could purchase some webbing and take it to a sew shop and have them sew a webbing bridge onto your saddle.

 

[Vtbow]

Correct webbing knot woukd be a water knot. Rope(not dynema or spectra which includes amsteel) retrace/follow through figure 8.

 

[NorthwoodsWiscoHnter]

I'm going to use the figure 8 with a bight. I think that will fit the best for my needs.

 

[Vtbow]

I'm going to use the figure 8 with a bight. I think that will fit the best for my needs.

Its a figure-8 on a bite with a bite sounds like a whiskey drink.

Remember, more knots = less strength. Girth hitchs is a knot. A follow through/retrace figure eight allows you to tie the loop end of the 8 through something....

More knots also equals more bulk.

 

[NorthwoodsWiscoHnter]

Its a figure-8 on a bite with a bite sounds like a whiskey drink.

Remember, more knots = less strength. Girth hitchs is a knot. A follow through/retrace figure eight allows you to tie the loop end of the 8 through something....

More knots also equals more bulk.

I've heard and read that more knots = less strength. I agree that is correct. However the ropes and webbing that we use are very strong. Usually much stronger than we actually need. I'm curious if there actually has been times where ropes with the proper knots in good condition have actually broke in the circumstances of saddle hunting.

 

[Yodan]

Girth hitch on one side and use a halyard hitch on carabiner for the other side.

 

[10essee]

. Either figure 8 or spliced eye on fixed side and ropeman or Prusik on running side. Figure 8 takes a good bit of length and has a substantial amount of bulk in 10mm rope. Spliced eye girth hitched be least bulk of all options.

 

[kyler1945]

I've heard and read that more knots = less strength. I agree that is correct. However the ropes and webbing that we use are very strong. Usually much stronger than we actually need. I'm curious if there actually has been times where ropes with the proper knots in good condition have actually broke in the circumstances of saddle hunting.

This is half the rope's MBS. You're right - the whole reason for the overkill is knots, wear, age, etc. But I think people tend to forget this when they continue wanting to go with a smaller lighter rope.