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CGM Foot Loops are Amazing!

gcr0003 said:
I would recommend learning to go up as well as down 2tc. 2tc is super fast coming down and is great to know as a back up method to get down. With the bulk, weight and time to set up a rappel, I really think you can be down a moderate sized tree in the same amount of time as rappel.
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I can't agree with you on the rappelling part. :) I use a JRB Ascender Hitch, on my upper tether and as soon as I'm done hunting, I can rappel out and be on the ground in less than 15 seconds. The only thing that holds me up, is removing my platform as I rappel. The JRB Ascender Hitch holds me in place, while I remove the platform, then all I have to do is release the pressure on the hitch and I'm on the ground at the decent rate I choose. :cool:
As far as bulk/weight, the rappel rope fits in a dump pouch on my right side and weighs less than 3#.

Just the same, I DO agree with you, on knowing how to climb down with the same 2TC method that's used to climb up. S*** happens and it's always good to have redundancy on any climbing method. :)
 
MattMan81 said:
My mind is thinking a love child of a preset, srt climb with those foot loops. Being able to plant it into the tree creates a more controlled stable feel when climbing the rope?? No metal hardware clanging around.. maybe??
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Minimal metal hardware, 3 carabiners only, is possible....2TC continues to advance in silence and simplicity.
 
This is really cool, kinda has the wheels spinning in my mind of building it into some type of minimalist climber with cables or something that would be a little quicker to maneuver up the tree that the tether. I'm not much of a designer/tinkerer, but if anyone steers things in that direction I'm 100% down to try it. The original 2TC systems I just couldn't get to make sense but this really seems to be moving things in a better direction.
 
Hall17 said:
2 carabiners, 2 hitches and 2 ropes. Doesn't get much simpler than that. Also, if I don't feel like climbing a tree that day I didn't lug around much weight to do so
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Yes, but going around branches easily and safely on only 2 tethers, and having your saddle attached to your foot tether adds some complexity.... but yes, the KISS 2TC system is as you describe it!
 
elk yinzer said:
This is really cool, kinda has the wheels spinning in my mind of building it into some type of minimalist climber with cables or something that would be a little quicker to maneuver up the tree that the tether. I'm not much of a designer/tinkerer, but if anyone steers things in that direction I'm 100% down to try it. The original 2TC systems I just couldn't get to make sense but this really seems to be moving things in a better direction.
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My mind has been spinning with spring loaded cables (probably because I've been watching some Japanese hunting YouTube videos recently and they primarily snare deer and pigs) since I re-discovered this thread but it's all complicated and noisy. I think the part that needs to be improved (for me) is the idiot holding the ropes.
 
BowhunterXC said:
This guy is only using 1 Foot Loop (looks like a 2" safety harness/belt), but the method is the same with using 2 Foot Loops. Actually, it's easier because you have more power from using both legs and the 4" wide Foot Loops make it way more comfortable to stand while moving the upper tether line. :cool:
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So why does he set his left foot differently than he does his right to move the tether up? Seems like you would do both the same way, after all each leg is the same.
 
If you can get the technique right, 1 foot method is alot faster as well as more maneuverable. With a 2 foot loop it feels alot more strained and like there's less room to move your legs....but you might as well get the 2 foot loop, because that way you can rest your other leg or even switch back and forth if you're tired.
 
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2Sloe said:
So why does he set his left foot differently than he does his right to move the tether up? Seems like you would do both the same way, after all each leg is the same.
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He’s climbing 1-legged and using his right leg to wrap around the tree.


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MNFarmHunter said:
He’s climbing 1-legged and using his right leg to wrap around the tree.


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Each tether has to be raised so I would think that you would do it the same way no matter which leg you are raising. The left leg raise seems so unnecessarily complicated when compared to the right. Understanding that I only know what I see vice from experience.
 
2Sloe said:
Each tether has to be raised so I would think that you would do it the same way no matter which leg you are raising. The left leg raise seems so unnecessarily complicated when compared to the right. Understanding that I only know what I see vice from experience.
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Gotcha.

Only his left leg is in a foot loop so when he’s sitting in the saddle, he tucks both legs up for ease while advancing the foot tether.

When standing, he’s only using his left leg to stand and uses his right leg to wrap the tree. This locks him in and allows him to be hands free to advance the saddle tether.

Then simply repeat…


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Samcirrus said:
If you can get the technique right, 1 foot method is alot faster as well as more maneuverable. With a 2 foot loop it feels alot more strained and like there's less room to move your legs....but you might as well get the 2 foot loop, because that way you can rest your other leg or even switch back and forth if you're tired.
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Agreed! :) I was test climbing earlier this morning, using both Foot Loops and found out that my left leg does better climbing by itself. I needed to use my right leg wrap around the tree to steady myself while moving the tethers up the tree. I also need to get some climbing rated small diameter rope for my JRB ascender hitch. :rolleyes: What I was using is some new 3/8" rope, but from Menards and not rated for climbing. The 3/8" rope was getting pretty hot, while rappelling. I've never noticed this before, on other climbing ropes.
 
BowhunterXC said:
Agreed! :) I was test climbing earlier this morning, using both Foot Loops and found out that my left leg does better climbing by itself. I needed to use my right leg wrap around the tree to steady myself while moving the tethers up the tree. I also need to get some climbing rated small diameter rope for my JRB ascender hitch. :rolleyes: What I was using is some new 3/8" rope, but from Menards and not rated for climbing. The 3/8" rope was getting pretty hot, while rappelling. I've never noticed this before, on other climbing ropes.
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Yeah, don't use hardware store rope!
 
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