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Climbing platform research and development.

Camelcluch said:
Is it possible to disconnect and reconnect to go around limbs?
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Sounds obvious that this needs to be a quick disconnect type system that can be done while just using climbing rope secured around tree in mid climb.
 
HuskerInIowa said:
Not being sarcastic but then where are your 3 points of contact? I’m just a sticks guy so I get lost easy.
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Just like when using a one stick. Knees against tree or standing on limb(s) needing to detach cable in order to get around. More advanced saddle guys and gals in here can explain better I am sure. I am relatively new to it.
 
Lite weight (6 lbs or less), resonably priced, quiet, place for cam buckle or rachet stap to make it solid after setting up, simple and easy to attach and climb
 
Noonespecial said:
You’re my hero! Something very similar to the top portion of the old cast aluminum Lone Wolf hand climber. Just replace the belt with a cable, no post for caming over like a platform, just hooks for a ratchet strap or cam buckle on either side. No need for anything else.
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Post is far better than hooks for a ratchet strap, in my experience
 
Samcirrus said:
So I think many would want at least a 15 to 18" deep platform that can handle side pressure when at the top. Along with your other aspects.
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Personally, I’d aim for 20”deep and sub 6lbs. The Crossover bottom is 24x16.5 and 7lbs.

There aren’t many climbing/platform combos that can touch 6lbs. And in my experience, the larger platform pays off in this application because a climbing platform is not really an ideal setup for pushing off sides and all that ninja stuff.

The exception to that would be the crowd who intentionally do not want their climbing platform secured to the tree in a fixed position, so as to be able to move around the tree using the platform. (As well as the JX3 crowd). Then LWHC dimensions (13” deep x 16” wide) seem to be fine. I’m not someone who wants to do that.
 
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Plebe said:
The exception to that would be the crowd who intentionally do not want their climbing platform secured to the tree in a fixed position, so as to be able to move around the tree using the platform. (As well as the JX3 crowd).
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Plebe - why do you say this?? I'm a new JX3 user and I believe I want the platform in a fixed position so I can use it to push off on and move around the tree.

I'm not questioning your statement, just want to understand why I would not want the platform in a fixed and secured position. Maybe I'm using it wrong?
 
- I’d go for a climbing platform that performs a calculation when I discover a killing spot. This calculation would be the odds of killing a deer after having climbed a tree in that spot, versus killing a deer having stayed on the ground in that spot.

If it determined I was 80% more likely to kill a deer after having climbed, or less, it locked itself in an umclimbable position, forcing me to hunt from the ground.

- made of hollow tube that is sealed water tight, with an npt fitting on it somewhere to fill, sterilize, etc. from. Then I can carry a liter or two of water in it. Would sacrifice a small amount of weight for larger size tubing to fit more water to not have to carry a water bottle. Bonus points if it’s a solid platform that can hold 2-3l of water and still weigh 4-6lbs empty.

- pairs seamlessly with exo harness and belt to become a frame pack.

- no wider than 16”.

- all edges that are metal come stealth stripped, covered in fabric, whatever so they’re quiet slipping through thicket.

- you don’t do a preorder.

- you don’t use catch phrases.

- you don’t give people the impression you’re a competent and qualified individual to run a company that sells people gear that can help them kill themselves, particularly on the testing and technique front.

- you donate proceeds from each sale of a platform to the buyer joining a climbing and working from heights certification course.
 
kyler1945 said:
- I’d go for a climbing platform that performs a calculation when I discover a killing spot. This calculation would be the odds of killing a deer after having climbed a tree in that spot, versus killing a deer having stayed on the ground in that spot.

If it determined I was 80% more likely to kill a deer after having climbed, or less, it locked itself in an umclimbable position, forcing me to hunt from the ground.

- made of hollow tube that is sealed water tight, with an npt fitting on it somewhere to fill, sterilize, etc. from. Then I can carry a liter or two of water in it. Would sacrifice a small amount of weight for larger size tubing to fit more water to not have to carry a water bottle. Bonus points if it’s a solid platform that can hold 2-3l of water and still weigh 4-6lbs empty.

- pairs seamlessly with exo harness and belt to become a frame pack.

- no wider than 16”.

- all edges that are metal come stealth stripped, covered in fabric, whatever so they’re quiet slipping through thicket.

- you don’t do a preorder.

- you don’t use catch phrases.

- you don’t give people the impression you’re a competent and qualified individual to run a company that sells people gear that can help them kill themselves, particularly on the testing and technique front.

- you donate proceeds from each sale of a platform to the buyer joining a climbing and working from heights certification course.
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I guess if one is used to heavy climbers the 4.4lb or 6.6lb water weight penalty isn't much. Is that how much water you southern guys have to bring? Wow. Genuinely interested.
 
white03 said:
Plebe - why do you say this?? I'm a new JX3 user and I believe I want the platform in a fixed position so I can use it to push off on and move around the tree.

I'm not questioning your statement, just want to understand why I would not want the platform in a fixed and secured position. Maybe I'm using it wrong?
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I am saying the JX3 crowd doesn’t want a 6lb platform. The smaller LW Hand Climber size is fine when paired with a JX3.

I never want annunattached platform.
 
kyler1945 said:
- I’d go for a climbing platform that performs a calculation when I discover a killing spot. This calculation would be the odds of killing a deer after having climbed a tree in that spot, versus killing a deer having stayed on the ground in that spot.

If it determined I was 80% more likely to kill a deer after having climbed, or less, it locked itself in an umclimbable position, forcing me to hunt from the ground.

- made of hollow tube that is sealed water tight, with an npt fitting on it somewhere to fill, sterilize, etc. from. Then I can carry a liter or two of water in it. Would sacrifice a small amount of weight for larger size tubing to fit more water to not have to carry a water bottle. Bonus points if it’s a solid platform that can hold 2-3l of water and still weigh 4-6lbs empty.

- pairs seamlessly with exo harness and belt to become a frame pack.

- no wider than 16”.

- all edges that are metal come stealth stripped, covered in fabric, whatever so they’re quiet slipping through thicket.

- you don’t do a preorder.

- you don’t use catch phrases.

- you don’t give people the impression you’re a competent and qualified individual to run a company that sells people gear that can help them kill themselves, particularly on the testing and technique front.

- you donate proceeds from each sale of a platform to the buyer joining a climbing and working from heights certification course.
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I'm going to disagree with @Plebe ,a small, lightweight platform that can be easily be moved around the tree at height is perfect for me. Takeaway is you will never satisfy all (or probably even a majority of) saddle hunters with a single product.
 
CZMark said:
I'm going to disagree with @Plebe ,a small, lightweight platform that can be easily be moved around the tree at height is perfect for me. Takeaway is you will never satisfy all (or probably even a majority of) saddle hunters with a single product.
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I don’t see any conflict here. I clearly acknowledged that some prefer it that way. Perhaps it’s a majority. Idk. I represented how I would go about it.

LWHC, Barron Ridge, Broadside Stand, Panther. All can walk the tree if the user has this preference. All are “lightweight”. all relatively compact. Some can be fixed stationary, others don’t offer that opportunity.

Yet, I don’t see any commercial options in the dimension I suggest. The TL Mission is a great platform with a strong following. It’s nearly 6lbs. Based on what LWCG has in it’s Crossover, it seems possible to have an even bigger platform than the Mission that doubles as a climbing method but competes in that same weight class.

It’s a different preference, sure, but an underrepresented one and imo, one that is much more intuitive to the average hunter (like me).

Or compete with the others. Just make it outstanding.
 
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