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Climbing rope for tree access
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did a google search to get to their site and the second link was the yelp reviews. be careful with this site guys:
http://www.yelp.com/biz/123-mountain-lakewood
http://www.yelp.com/biz/123-mountain-lakewood
bowbender73
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Ok, thanks for the heads up guys. If I don't see or hear anything within the week I'll look into it a LOT closer!
They're back in stock at Backcountry.com
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Hmm...I wonder if I can cancel my order at 123??
Yea, the specs at backcountry say 15 kN now. It used to be 4. http://www.backcountry.com/wild-country ... DDM54-2_M1sojourner said:
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I confirmed a canceled order at 123 mtn this am. Before canceling I ordered one from backcountry just in case they ran out again. Later, after my 123 order cancellation was confirmed, I decided to try change my order of 1 to 2 so I could get free shipping. Not only did backcountry ok it, they upgraded my shipping for free!!?? I highly recommend them to anyone!!
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sojourner said:
I hate when that happens to
I just ordered two new, and would have bought your old ones lol
Yea I was surprised when I learned it was that low. I couldn't see it failing in our applications but it never hurts to have a higher rating!sojourner said:
Very interesting, this is the first forum I've joined. I've really enjoyed the reading here. Red squirrel is doing a great job. Im interested in giving this a try. I'd love to see a video from a hunters view. I gonna go back and check off my list of things I need to buy and start. My question is lots of trees in in now. (Using steps to climb then attach My g web) there is no limbs reachable by rope? Find another tree? Is the simple answer. Or what?
Travisjoe said:
I've been practicing with this method a lot in the backyard. I've been trying out all of the different gear I have to use both my microfrog version and RADS. Last year my big problem with this method was that I would do it great and quick in the backyard and then I would go to hunt and it would be really tough to climb in the cold with hunting clothing on. I am stilling working on figuring that part out but I've got 2 ways of climbing nailed down now between the frog and RADS.
I had to adjust my RADS setup to make it work for me. I picked up a petzl gri gri 2 and I am using that instead of my petzl pro rig now. It is smaller and makes it easier IMO. I am not a tall guy and with the rig I did not have much room between the pulley on the hand ascender and the rig before I had to take another step to free up rope. It is very important that you keep the gri gri (or your tie in point depending on your method) as close to your pelvis as possible. This gives you the maximum amount of pull on your rope and makes the entire system easier. I hook up through 2 holes on my aero hunter but when I get bulky with clothes this doesn't work. I also started climbing with both of my feet in the foot loop rather than just one, and this probably makes the biggest difference for me. It makes the entire climb so much more compact and allows me to maintain form rather than flail around.
At some point WD did mention that he used a climber at one point to setup a tree with a step to run a rope over.
So I would be interested in hearing if anyone else is having similar problems with me and this method once it gets cold and your bulky clothing starts to come in. I used this method many times in the early season and it worked great while I was wearing light clothing.
essdub
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Re: RE: Re: Climbing rope for tree access
I also screw in a step at tree top once i get to the height i intend to hunt where I can position the rope so it won't slip down
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My biggest problem has been with the foot ascender while wearing bulky clothes. The foot ascender requires you to keep your leg/foot fairly vertical or it can kick the rope out of its cam. I'm using the hand ascender with foot loop plus the grigri2 or ropeman/duck along with the foot ascender so I have to "sit"while I reposition the rope into the foot ascender. This only seems to happen to me once I have to start layering clothing and it gets bulky. Other than that, my only real problems have been the noise, and sometimes getting the rope into and out of the tree (even with a pre positioned "pull string" getting caught or jammed while pulling)redsquirrel said:
I also screw in a step at tree top once i get to the height i intend to hunt where I can position the rope so it won't slip down
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I have to put some stuff on the new gri gri 2 to quiet it down, but while climbing I don't have any noise issues. Getting set up on the fly can be stressful so I'm mostly limiting myself to pre set hunts with this method. If your pull string is getting jammed where you attach it to your rope, WD posted a video early in the thread so you can hook a piece up paracord up to it so it runs straight, and that helps.
I have been hunting off of a tree strap still because the spot where I get the rope over isn't necessarily where I want to hang and hunt from.
Are you using a pulley on your hand ascender? If so, I tried exactly how you are doing it on sunday. It was basically RADS except instead of pulling the rope through with my hand I used my foot with the foot ascender. It worked really well as in it was pretty easy, but it wasn't very efficient. I was able to pull way more rope through with my hand so it took me a lot longer to climb the tree by "pulling" it through with my foot. And I agree, if the foot ascender pops out, its not the end of the world, but it can get awkward.essdub said:
I have to put some stuff on the new gri gri 2 to quiet it down, but while climbing I don't have any noise issues. Getting set up on the fly can be stressful so I'm mostly limiting myself to pre set hunts with this method. If your pull string is getting jammed where you attach it to your rope, WD posted a video early in the thread so you can hook a piece up paracord up to it so it runs straight, and that helps.
I have been hunting off of a tree strap still because the spot where I get the rope over isn't necessarily where I want to hang and hunt from.
I thought that tying the pull rope to the spliced eye in my rope would make it easier to get it over the limb, but it still gets stuck. If you haven't attached a loop to the end of your rope, use a timber hitch on the end of your rope. I found that this is MUCH easier to get through a crotch/over a branch.
I might still put a string loop on the end but in the mean time that worked well.
I might still put a string loop on the end but in the mean time that worked well.
essdub
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I don't use a pulley unless I use the grigri2. I usually just pull the rope with whatever string i left in tree or use throw line to pull it up, then pull the rope through the eye (or figure eight with a loop),hook up the hand ascender with foot loop, hook up to my (grigri2 or) ropeman/duck attached to my bridge pulled tight to my waist, then put weight on rope. Then I usually have to take a "step"or two to stretch the rope taut and get my feet off the ground. Then I hook up my foot ascender and can basically walk up the rope. I just noticed noise from the" swinging"back and forth a little bit as I climb and hit small limbs on my way up. Also noise from the ascenders (it's not much, but I notice it) or carabiners. Actually it's probably less noise than I make when using the spurs, but I have less to carry when I use them, so I have been doing that more this year. I usually only rope climb less than ten trees I already have set up
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Does anyone know of a youtube or other video that shows how the heck you guys are climbing ropes??? It seems like an easy way to prep a tree - even if I needed a climber to set it up the first time.
I was also thinking of a way to mount a pulley so that I can reduce my weight to make climbing it easy. So take a climber up, put my rope, bow holders, pulley, platform, etc where I want them. Then when I go to hunt it, just rope climb it. It seems easier than screwing in a bunch of steps then having to climb the tree, messing around with tether to lineman's belt to get around limbs...
But I could find rope climbing to be enough work that the steps just make more sense. So before I get started, I'd love to see how you are doing it.
I was also thinking of a way to mount a pulley so that I can reduce my weight to make climbing it easy. So take a climber up, put my rope, bow holders, pulley, platform, etc where I want them. Then when I go to hunt it, just rope climb it. It seems easier than screwing in a bunch of steps then having to climb the tree, messing around with tether to lineman's belt to get around limbs...
But I could find rope climbing to be enough work that the steps just make more sense. So before I get started, I'd love to see how you are doing it.
essdub
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This is maybe the closest thing I could find in a video to how I've been doing it.
Except I try to be quiet.
And I use the duck or ropeman attached to my saddles bridge (I tighten it all the way if it's adjustable or use a string tied in a loop thrown over my neck to keep the ascender somewhere around chest level)in place of the croll.
And I'm wearing a modified aero hunter or sling.
And camo.
I used to do this with knots instead of ascenders, but knots get kinda bound up when you put your weight on them and sometimes it was real work positioning myself to move them. So I switched to mechanical ascender for bridge, hand ascender with foot loop, and a petzl pantin foot ascender
https://youtu.be/8SpQ1AC0Ikw
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Except I try to be quiet.
And I use the duck or ropeman attached to my saddles bridge (I tighten it all the way if it's adjustable or use a string tied in a loop thrown over my neck to keep the ascender somewhere around chest level)in place of the croll.
And I'm wearing a modified aero hunter or sling.
And camo.
I used to do this with knots instead of ascenders, but knots get kinda bound up when you put your weight on them and sometimes it was real work positioning myself to move them. So I switched to mechanical ascender for bridge, hand ascender with foot loop, and a petzl pantin foot ascender
https://youtu.be/8SpQ1AC0Ikw
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