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"Climbing with bolts is slow and hard."

I can see the advantages of those bolts. However, I’m concerned about the health of the tree. Also, I feel as a hunter, I have a responsibility to leave the woods in a better stage than I find them. With hunting privileges on private land, I feel bolts damage another man’s timber. That tree is going to be useless/worthless for milling when it will be harvested if it’s not dead before that. As a landowner, I do not allow bolts and screw in steps. Am I the only one thinking like this?
 
Nice video. I am still contemplating getting a set (titanium bolts for me and my weight) for use on the very limited land I can. I really don't mind carrying three modified sticks on my pack though and for setting up right on top of bedding I like the ninja factor they allow. So many good ways to get into a tree these days.
 
MaxJac said:
I can see the advantages of those bolts. However, I’m concerned about the health of the tree. Also, I feel as a hunter, I have a responsibility to leave the woods in a better stage than I find them. With hunting privileges on private land, I feel bolts damage another man’s timber. That tree is going to be useless/worthless for milling when it will be harvested if it’s not dead before that. As a landowner, I do not allow bolts and screw in steps. Am I the only one thinking like this?
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No, you’re not.
 
Ontariofarmer, you have a point there. But then, how many holes is one drilling per tree for syrup vs. for climbing. And, how much deeper are the holes for the bolts vs. the syrup? I don't want to argue, just trying to understand better.
 
MaxJac said:
Ontariofarmer, you have a point there. But then, how many holes is one drilling per tree for syrup vs. for climbing. And, how much deeper are the holes for the bolts vs. the syrup? I don't want to argue, just trying to understand better.
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True. Maple trees are often tapped with 3 or 4 holes around the trunk for 50 years

The depth is slightly less but the size of the hole is slightly bigger with a maple tap Just my estimates


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FWIW, if I believed tree death was likely I wouldn't be drilling trees in my yard. 2 seasons of drilling and I am yet to see a tree show signs of ill health. Holes close up over the summer. Spurs, wild edge steps, most climbers, and some sticks will all penetrate the cambium, which can lead to tree death as well if the right variables fall into place.

I am not saying tree death is impossible. But add up a lifetime of licenses, donations, and Pittman Robertson tax (both paid personally and generated from my years as an archery tech) and I think I'm offsetting my footprint.
 
A google search on maple trees Google searches are never wrong????:blush: Interesting answers...

When you drill a hole to tap your tree for maple syrup, it's generally 2” deep and less than 0.5” wide. To your mature 50-foot maple tree, that's just a teeny, tiny hole! Plus, the area you drill through is filled with millions of small vessels that allow sap to flow.Feb 27, 2018

Does tapping maple trees damage the tree?
Tapping a tree does create a wound, but it is a wound from which the tree can readily recover and does not endanger the health of the tree. Commercial syrup producers are able to tap trees for decades without adversely affecting the health of the tree. A vigorous tree will heal, or grow over, a tap hole in one year.

Does tapping a maple tree kill it?
Do NOT drill a tree that is less than 10″ across. It's too young and tapping it could kill it.

Does tapping maple trees cause harm? Maple trees are not harmed by the tapping process unless a tap is deeper than 2 1/2 inches into the tree, where it is possible to hit the heart of the tree.
 
dalton916 said:
Jibber jabber
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yup The point is I doubt that drilingl a few holes in a mature tree damages... Maple trees are a good example of drilling trees over and over for several years. I guess drilling a small tree is a risk or drilling a veneer tree is costly, other wise it is not a huge deal.
 
ImThere said:
Cause if you use a shot gun its just shooting squirrels, if you use a 22 you can spend all day in the woods hunting a limit!
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I don't know if y'all have picked up on this, but NutterBuster is all about efficiency. I like muh sqwings, and I like 'em right now! Ain't nobody got time to "pew pew" at them limb-chickens all dang day.

I like my gear light and my game vest heavy!
 
I don’t care to drill pines but will if that’s where I need to be. There’s not much marketable hardwood timber here. There’s a place nearby that has an amazing machine that turns logs into firewood that buys hardwood but that’s about it and a drilled hole isn’t going to hurt the value of firewood. Public land is different. They do harvest pines. I haven’t seen much hardwood harvested on public land. I’ve seen more hardwood trees they have killed with hack and squirt method than harvested. They are promoting long leaf pine habitat in a big area of the state and don’t mind killing oaks to do so. As far as them bushy tails I’m happy to chase them all day with a ruger pistol but prefer a shotgun when I want to have a mess to eat. Sooner or later a 22 in the woods shooting in an upward angle is going to be a liability. Do you know where that bullet is falling. I’ve been hit by falling shotgun pellets enough to know a #6 is considerably more annoying than a #8 shot. A 22 is really small but much larger than a #6 shot.
 
Nothing says “efficiency” like a 30 minute video about drilling a hole in a tree to stick a bolt in

I bet when you see another Bammer on the street you say “ever since I was a kid I have been a proponent of the alternate rising and falling of the sea, diurnal in most cases, but along the gulf it’s......well it could urnal or maybe monournal or is uniurnal? I need to look into that because it is confusing and speaking of confusing what happens down around the keys where the two tide cycles meet? Wait, maybe it doesn’t happen there and instead it happens in what is described as the Bermuda Triangle and it’s the two cycles clashing that’s causing all the chaos over there? Weird......moving over in a particular direction about its axis” followed by a head nod.
 
dalton916 said:
Nothing says “efficiency” like a 30 minute video about drilling a hole in a tree to stick a bolt in

I bet when you see another Bammer on the street you say “ever since I was a kid I have been a proponent of the alternate rising and falling of the sea, diurnal in most cases, but along the gulf it’s......well it could urnal or maybe monournal or is uniurnal? I need to look into that because it is confusing and speaking of confusing what happens down around the keys where the two tide cycles meet? Wait, maybe it doesn’t happen there and instead it happens in what is described as the Bermuda Triangle and it’s the two cycles clashing that’s causing all the chaos over there? Weird......moving over in a particular direction about its axis” followed by a head nod.
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Ro'ti' :laughing::laughing::laughing:
 
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