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Custom Tree Strap
- Thread starter redsquirrel
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Looking good!
Red squirrel, I am interested in trying the webbing for a tree strap. Could you post a few more photos of your set up along with how you set it up on the tree? I've never had a trophy line tree saddle so I'm not sure of how it "sets" up. I'm currently using the Evolution.
Bogle said:
I know I have some pics of it floating around, but I will take some fresh pics of it while hunting this week.
With John's guidance and help, my Anderson sling now looks very similar to this and I absolutely LOVE it. I'm stunned at how gracious John is with his time, and we are very lucky to have him contributing so much to this site! Thanks again, John!John Eberhart said:
The whole "hip pressure" thing doesn't really compute for me. It's a saddle. There is going to be "pressure". Either the pressure will be:
1. Weight is on your butt (hip pressure)
2. Weight is on your thighs (lean back, too much so pressure on knees/back)
3. Weight is on thighs and lower back (combo of places to feel "pressure")
To me, the weight should be on your butt. Why? Because it was designed to sat on. Start putting pressure under your thighs and you risk cutting off circulation if you're not careful (think sitting on a toilet). Start putting pressure on your lower back and, although it's more "relaxing", you'll eventually have back issues. I learned this the hard way with the original Aero saddle. I was allowing the pressure to be too much on my thighs and lower back.
1. Weight is on your butt (hip pressure)
2. Weight is on your thighs (lean back, too much so pressure on knees/back)
3. Weight is on thighs and lower back (combo of places to feel "pressure")
To me, the weight should be on your butt. Why? Because it was designed to sat on. Start putting pressure under your thighs and you risk cutting off circulation if you're not careful (think sitting on a toilet). Start putting pressure on your lower back and, although it's more "relaxing", you'll eventually have back issues. I learned this the hard way with the original Aero saddle. I was allowing the pressure to be too much on my thighs and lower back.
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jhicks54 said:
jhicks, I first got to sit in a tree saddle about a year into the Aero. I quickly realized what made it work and what created the pressure that I was feeling on my hips. While a full seat instead of butt straps put the pressure under my butt where I wanted it, the flat design was what created that pressure. A contoured design relieved that pressure for me as well as being able to adjust the straps. As for leg straps, I have found that as long as I integrate what I call a "swing strap" that connects to the same area as the leg loops, then the leg loops can be non load bearing but they do have to be there and not too loose for them to function for you in case you need them. I know what you are talking about with the first generation of the Aero. Instead of the pressure points being underneath my butt and thighs like it is when I am tree climbing, the way you guys stand against the tree put more pressure into my lower back. That is when I came up with the back seat band which I preferred under my butt at the top of my leg pads. With only the butt straps there, there was nothing substantial for my butt to push against. Once I started using it the pressure on my back was relieved. BTW, I think your idea of using a method to keep the inside leg straps together to give it more form when putting your feet through is a great idea. With the new ideas that I have that will not be a problem in the future.
LASOutdoorsmen
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I've gotta spare Trophyline Tree Strap. I'm not sure if I want to sell it or customize it. Any ideas on how I could make it better? I'm thinking about calling Mr. Eberhart to learn more about his tree strap.
jhicks54 said:
I'll second that. While I know some prefer the "added luxury" of the Evolution, I still believe what the vast majority are looking for is lightweight and portability? I would love for New Tribe to develop a minimalist saddle. Butt strap, waist cinch, removable bridge (just need the loops on both sides) and perhaps one crotch strap in the event of a fall. Ideally, this thing would be able to be rolled up tight and carried in a fanny pack. The bridge could be webbing with sewn loops that attach to saddle via carbineers.
If you build this I will order two immediately... and I am sure others will as well. I do realize liability is an issue - but surely we can get a saddle that is more compact and lighter weight then the current models for us guys that don't hunt near the road. You get out west to hunt elk wallows and trust me every ounce adds up quickly.
I've seen it mentioned quite a few times for a lighter or minimalist saddle but I have to say that I can't imagine after years of schlepping around climbers and fixed position, sometimes weighing in the double digits, anything lighter than the current AeroHunter. I felt like i was practically running around naked when I put the saddle on for the first time and walked around. Compared to what I used to have to lug around the saddle is ultra light and minimalist for me I can't even imagine something smaller and lighter than that with the same safety, versatility, and functionality. I'm not saying it can't be done or shouldn't but for me the weight advantage, portability, and manueverability that I've gained by going to the current AeroHunter Evolution are to me anyway amazing compared to what I was used to using. What used to take up half of my truck can now be carried and stored in a canvas bag, what I had to lug in on my back I now wear, and the big cumbersome metal stand that banged and bumped into every branch and stick is replaced by softer quieter material that slips through the heaviest of cover with ease. Heck i think my bow and a quiver full of arrows weighs as much or more than my saddle!
While I realize there is always room for improvement with any product I'm just enjoying the freedom that the AeroHunter is affording me and looking forward to putting it to good use this fall and winter. I think an ultralight saddle appeals to a certain group of hunters with specific needs and wants just like ultra light backpackers think things like titanium spoons and cookware are the cats meow because they shave ounces off of what the person has to carry but the average camper wouldn't give it a second thought. Maybe after hunting with the saddle for a while I might think it is heavy but all I have to do is look at my climber, hang on, or ground blind to remind me just how far we come and I'm really happy with that.
Roger
While I realize there is always room for improvement with any product I'm just enjoying the freedom that the AeroHunter is affording me and looking forward to putting it to good use this fall and winter. I think an ultralight saddle appeals to a certain group of hunters with specific needs and wants just like ultra light backpackers think things like titanium spoons and cookware are the cats meow because they shave ounces off of what the person has to carry but the average camper wouldn't give it a second thought. Maybe after hunting with the saddle for a while I might think it is heavy but all I have to do is look at my climber, hang on, or ground blind to remind me just how far we come and I'm really happy with that.
Roger
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