H2 Saddle

[EricS]

Well I’m betting that an “actual” company’s saddles won’t have an equipment failure and that any fall would be user error so the idea of insurance covering a fall is almost guaranteed to be null and void. They’re way overbuilt so any fall would almost very be user error. And my H2 is overbuilt as well. I literally will bet my life on the quality of build and materials of my H2 to last my lifetime of hunting and probably could pass it down for another many years of use.
I’m curious if you have posted the same posts toward the moded sit drags, diy rope knots(prussiks, distel, etc), diy sticks and stick mods, diy platforms, various climbing techniques, ropemans on tethers, etc, etc. ? It seems there’s a bias and with some teeth showing towards the H2s. I have a cottage industry hammock and it’s bar none better than the “actual” companies that make them. I have some other cottage industry products that are amazing as well. I’ll always support the little guys if I can. By and large the big companies of anything have more quality control issues than the small guys because the small guys depend more on word of mouth and reputation for business.
The cottage I industry guys are not being deceptive with anything in there products so can’t we buy and use what we want and that just be that. Do the non “actual companies” need to be put on blast ?

Can’t we all just get along ..(Rodney king)

Do you really think it matters if it was user error in a lawsuit. The judge can decide that it was 10 percent the manufacturers fault and 90 percent the deceased and still cost a company a couple million plus legal fees.

 

[PaTrout1]

Not affiliated with tethrd, but I've been told it's one that covers a customer if there is faulty equipment.

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And who "told" you that? Just because guys put YouTube videos up and seem like they're trying to help fellow hunters (which I have no doubt they actually are trying to do) the thought that they're going to admit to a manufactured error is slim to none. At the end of the day they are a business with people depending on them and their families depending on them and lawyers who will contort themselves 100 ways from Sunday to keep their client from paying any more than they have to. I say all this not disparage what seems to be a good group of guys and a good product but in the end, they're a business now so...

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[PaTrout1]

And who "told" you that? Just because guys put YouTube videos up and seem like they're trying to help fellow hunters (which I have no doubt they actually are trying to do) the thought that they're going to admit to a manufactured error is slim to none. At the end of the day they are a business with people depending on them and their families depending on them and lawyers who will contort themselves 100 ways from Sunday to keep their client from paying any more than they have to. I say all this not disparage what seems to be a good group of guys and a good product but in the end, they're a business now so...

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Not to mention H2 is an LLC which by definition makes them a "real company" which would require insurance, so...

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[BCHunter]

Not to mention H2 is an LLC which by definition makes them a "real company" which would require insurance, so...

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Having an LLC doesn't mean you have insurance.

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[BCHunter]

And who "told" you that? Just because guys put YouTube videos up and seem like they're trying to help fellow hunters (which I have no doubt they actually are trying to do) the thought that they're going to admit to a manufactured error is slim to none. At the end of the day they are a business with people depending on them and their families depending on them and lawyers who will contort themselves 100 ways from Sunday to keep their client from paying any more than they have to. I say all this not disparage what seems to be a good group of guys and a good product but in the end, they're a business now so...

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That's why companies get insurance, cuz if something goes wrong the customers and company are covered.... If someone does misuse a saddle, why would they be covered?

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[PaTrout1]

Having an LLC doesn't mean you have insurance.

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Someone told me they do. Heres the thing, if you dont trust them, dont buy one. It's pretty simple.

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[iamcorey]

I just don’t see any saddle company or hell any company paying out willingly for some equipment failure. Now once the legal process starts they will follow that path. Results will be a judgement or out of court settlement.


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[Blacksmith]

I Bought One and its Built Like A Tank. Very Well Made. Customer Service is Awesome Too...

 

[Flee]

I Bought One and its Built Like A Tank. Very Well Made. Customer Service is Awesome Too...

Built like a tank. Yepper. Zero reservations of any safety concerns.

 

[sweats]

Someone told me they do. Heres the thing, if you dont trust them, dont buy one. It's pretty simple.

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I can tell you absolutely that having an LLC does not mean you have liability insurance.

The LLC establishes the business as an entity, but that's really it. In some states, you can select a name, fill out a few things on a website, pay a small fee, and as long as the name doesn't conflict with an existing entity, you'll have your own LLC in 24-48 hours.

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[PaTrout1]

I can tell you absolutely that having an LLC does not mean you have liability insurance.

The LLC establishes the business as an entity, but that's really it. In some states, you can select a name, fill out a few things on a website, pay a small fee, and as long as the name doesn't conflict with an existing entity, you'll have your own LLC in 24-48 hours.

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I know, but thanks. It also doesnt offer you protection from personal liability so youd either have to ba fool or stupid not to have it. But to think that a hunter is going to get money from, what they consider to be a "legit company" if you get hurt is ludicrous. Again the moral of the story is "if you don't feel comfortable, dont buy it"..period. I do, as do many others so... case closed.

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[Arkansas Deer Wacker]

Once again we all want to speculate rather then validate. Might contact the Tethered boys or Aero Hunter and ask these questions. Aero Hunter is under New Tribe and I am confident that being under the umbrella of New Tribe, an established line of tree climbing products for some years, they have themselves covered. I looked for an hour under both websites and social media pages and found no certification or other standard to make any one stand out from the next. Just a thought for all those who seek an answer should go to the source, or just let those who want the H2 be allowed to decide for themselves. Not sure if any saddle maker can actually insure your safety as not all of them can carry the certifications and testing to be insured/ certified. All a company is required to do is publish a guide for use of their product and they are covered for most legal issues as I understand it. When it is my time to move up from my Sit Drag setup I will do the research then. As for this thread I will say anyone looking to buy a saddle ask all the questions before you buy so you make the best choice for yourself, not cast arrows at a small company who is trying to enter a flourishing market. Just a thought, you decide where you stand.

 

[Arkansas Deer Wacker]

I know, but thanks. It also doesnt offer you protection from personal liability so youd either have to ba fool or stupid not to have it. But to think that a hunter is going to get money from, what they consider to be a "legit company" if you get hurt is ludicrous. Again the moral of the story is "if you don't feel comfortable, dont buy it"..period. I do, as do many others so... case closed.

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Could not have summed this up any finer. Thanks PaTrout1 for that excellent explanation. I wanted to post the same in my last text but it was long enough already and was not sure if those I tried to explain an LLC would grasp the legal jargon that is associated with what it was.