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Hardest terrain to deer hunt in your opinion

I would definitely agree with many who already responded and say large monotonous tracks of mature forestland would be the most difficult to hunt, add swirling winds and for sure that makes it even more difficult.

it makes me strongly consider changing things up with my moderate to long term hunting goals. I keep watching those seek one dudes kill monsters in the urban and suburban areas of major metropolitan areas and I’m starting to think I’ve been wasting a lot of time hunting in “typical” whitetail habitat that everyone else is also thinking the same thing. I could see the most cumbersome and exhausting part of that kind of hunting is 1. All the permission getting drama and b. Worrying about what happens after the shot. Like ok I have permission on these three parcels but parcel 4-7 I don’t and the damn buck just ran into those parcels!!! That would be another kind of frustrating.
 
I would definitely agree with many who already responded and say large monotonous tracks of mature forestland would be the most difficult to hunt, add swirling winds and for sure that makes it even more difficult.

it makes me strongly consider changing things up with my moderate to long term hunting goals. I keep watching those seek one dudes kill monsters in the urban and suburban areas of major metropolitan areas and I’m starting to think I’ve been wasting a lot of time hunting in “typical” whitetail habitat that everyone else is also thinking the same thing. I could see the most cumbersome and exhausting part of that kind of hunting is 1. All the permission getting drama and b. Worrying about what happens after the shot. Like ok I have permission on these three parcels but parcel 4-7 I don’t and the damn buck just ran into those parcels!!! That would be another kind of frustrating.
I hunted Cleveland burbs 2016-17… they had just opened em up to archery. I didn’t bag one of the real monsters but still the easiest hunting I’ve ever done. And by good fortune the five deer I shot all ran in a pretty tight circle. My cousin talked to one of the seek one guys this evening, he said those urban permissions are getting tighter because people are following their lead… not many stones go unturned these days.
 
I hunted Cleveland burbs 2016-17… they had just opened em up to archery. I didn’t bag one of the real monsters but still the easiest hunting I’ve ever done. And by good fortune the five deer I shot all ran in a pretty tight circle. My cousin talked to one of the seek one guys this evening, he said those urban permissions are getting tighter because people are following their lead… not many stones go unturned these days.
Figures!!!
 
Adding to the big mountains - Appalachian/Blue ridge forests. It’s a lot of land to cover and crap logging practices means little habitat. Great for bear hunting however…

But, its not impossible.Once you find where the deer sanctuary is, i found there range isnt as ‘nomadic’ as you would think. Im not Dan Infalt, but ive been plenty successful in the mountains. No way in hell im sharing secret tactics though, Im no Dan Infalt… lol

What do you define as crap logging practices? From my experience, cutovers anywhere in Appalachia are the most productive habitat. Endless seas of mature timber are wildlife deserts.


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Figures!!!
Few pics from those years, none on my wall. Somewhere out there, though, there’s still a wood lot ripe for the picking. The good color picture was taken from my car and that’s what got me making a lotta phone calls asking for permission. The interesting thing about hunting is how difficult it can be, any terrain, everything has hurdles.4A78750E-7EA1-4F08-9DCD-927837DEC19D.jpeg9497BDD9-C242-4FA4-B17F-34650ECD0152.jpeg62A12D75-2796-4BFD-A1E2-D9C3EB8FE8A0.jpeg
 
Like a lot of people probably.. I grew up hunting private property that was a mix of ag land and woods, back in the early 90’s things were different….hunting wasn’t so competitive and permission was easily obtained, as time went on I began to lose property almost every year, eventually I questioned all of it… what is the sense in just learning a piece and then losing it for whatever reason, so I tried some smaller pieces of local public, no thanks… a real **** show. I live at the base of the Adirondacks, I had hunted the big woods some when I was younger, nobody ever killed anything and if you seen one deer you were grateful. Eventually I made my mind up I would focus on learning how to hunt the big woods in the Adks, I knew it would be a painful, a long learning curve, and be mentally tough, not seeing deer on every outing can take its toll fast, and it definitely did. The first few years I would hunt a couple days in the woods, get discouraged and race home to hunt the last private land I had left, our land we owned. Eventually I just made my mind up that 100” farm bucks and dealing with posted signs, idiot neighbors, and local gossip was not my future, so I took the dive and never looked back, I spent every day I had roaming the mountains, wading rivers, and crawling through thick spruce swamps, I covered many miles, and hardly had a close encounter with anything. I would kill a couple does with my bow at home for meat in the early season and go straight back into the big country for rifle, which for us is the main season at over a month long. Mile after mile each season I never killed anything, it was a long dry spell to say the least, 5 or 6 years maybe, after season I would drive to and cruise new pieces, on snow, check tracks, learned winter migration patterns, ran trail cameras, I practically wore out a couple trucks exploring all that the park has to offer, sometimes I would tent overnight in spots, use canoes, whatever it took. Through all the bad times I never gave up, and coming from some pretty lucrative private ag land to over 2 million acres of straight up woods, mountains, swamps, and poor deer numbers… it was a challenge, and then one year it finally clicked, and I killed a 5.5 year old 8, 120” or something, no monster, but a great buck for our area and one to be proud of, and I killed him like the first week, so I kept scouting all season, and in the years following I started killing more, some better, and definitely more consistent. I’ve gotten to the point where I can pretty much feel good about going into the season and kill or have the chance to kill a mature Adk buck, and let me tell you that it’s still no easy task, and if anyone reading this has ever hunted that country I guarantee you that they would agree there isn’t a place much worse to kill a whitetail deer than the Adirondack mountains of NYS, it truly is a challenge, and one I enjoy. I’ve hunted the mid west, I know the grass is greener, I’ve been to all those places and still could go, but something about being in the middle of nowheres with a big harvested mature rack buck and nobody around for miles, no posted signs, all alone, it gets in your system and it’s like a drug, and you can’t help but want more. It takes a long time to learn how to hunt the big woods with some sort of confidence, and it takes a lot of patience, along with a free schedule, lots of time…having time is the key. Being honest with your expectations is huge, I hunt hard, and I’m lucky to see 2 deer a week, I come home after a long trip, pull in the driveway and will usually see 10 deer in my yard, a small buck chasing does, is what is, I still prefer to hunt the big woods and doubt I will ever change. I’ve had the pleasure to hunt with a wide array of characters over the years in my travels, out of a couple dozen I can think 2 that had the mental toughness to stick it out chasing deer in big country, most quit the first weekend, some try twice, all agree it isn’t what they thought. So what is the hardest terrain to kill deer in…. one you quit on and have no confidence in, that’s my answer!!!
 
I would have to agree that hilly big woods are the toughest I have seen. There may be some tougher deer hunting out there, but I haven't seen it. We have low deer numbers where I hunt. My best guess is about 4 to 6 deer per square mile. There is no Ag anywhere nearby, not within 20 miles at least. It is not unusual at all to hunt a week straight and not see a deer of any variety. I've gotten a lot better at finding the few deer we have. Ninety nine percent of the deer use one percent of the land. You have to find where they want to be, or you will just be birdwatching.
 
I would have to agree that hilly big woods are the toughest I have seen. There may be some tougher deer hunting out there, but I haven't seen it. We have low deer numbers where I hunt. My best guess is about 4 to 6 deer per square mile. There is no Ag anywhere nearby, not within 20 miles at least. It is not unusual at all to hunt a week straight and not see a deer of any variety. I've gotten a lot better at finding the few deer we have. Ninety nine percent of the deer use one percent of the land. You have to find where they want to be, or you will just be birdwatching.

This is an important point to underline: in areas of very low deer density, then they do not experience much competition at prime locations that will drive some deer to spending some time also at less than prime locations.

The habitat fills up with deer at the prime spots first and might leak onto less than prime. If you haven't even filled the prime spots to carrying capacity, then you have to find those areas to be in the game.
 
This is an important point to underline: in areas of very low deer density, then they do not experience much competition at prime locations that will drive some deer to spending some time also at less than prime locations.

The habitat fills up with deer at the prime spots first and might leak onto less than prime. If you haven't even filled the prime spots to carrying capacity, then you have to find those areas to be in the game.
And the prime spots change throughout the season based on preferred food sources and pressure. The needle moves around in the haystack.
 
I have only hunted here so can't comment on other parts of the country....palmettos and pine flats are the most difficult terrain around here IMO with salt marsh right behind that in difficulty

Yeah, that would be really foreign to me and having salt on me and my gear would drive me nuts (as a land locked person).
 
Big woods has the most variability, but can still be broken down by transitions. Infalt has a good transition video on YT. Concentrate on transitions, timber cuts, etc. Old skidder roads tend to be travel spots and scrape locations. A good, unmarked on topo's, 20 year old skidder trail near bedding area's/saddles/thicker cover areas make me moist.


Locating and monitoring perennial scrapes with cell cams have had a big impact on my in the saddle buck sightings as well.
 
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I have never hunted private land. Grew up hunting public and still do. The military base I hunt now we can't use cameras even though some guys still sneak them in of course. Yesterday I had a S wind which was perfect for where I found this buck bed last week and his white oak tree. Walking up the creek I got very close to his feeding area and noticed in that specific area the wind was swirling and blowing right into his bed. At the truck it was perfect but 200 yards later totally different. Figured I was already there and of course didn't see him. Figured he smelled me and it was over before it started. They bed in specific areas for a reason!

Swirly mountain winds are so frustrating. I also think open country spot and stalks are very challenging as well since it takes so much patience with most times very little reward.

Extremely successful big mountain buck killers can argue with me all they want but you have to get lucky. Yes skill is a major part but you have to get lucky to get an opportunity on them. My opportunity came last week the day after finding this bucks bed and feeding area. I messed it up and I may never see him again this year. Its how it goes. Move on and don't let it get you down. Last night as I was hooking up my rope to come down I smiled and thought I have a loving wife and 3 year old waiting for me at home and they are way more important than killing a mature whitetail. However, having both would have made me smile just a tad more
 
Big woods has the most variability, but can still be broken down by transitions. Infalt has a good transition video on YT. Concentrate on transitions, timber cuts, etc. Old skidder roads tend to be travel spots and scrape locations. A good, unmarked on topo's, 20 year old skidder trail near bedding area's/saddles/thicker cover areas make me moist.


Locating and monitoring perennial scrapes with cell cams have had a big impact on my in the saddle buck sightings as well.

During the rut, do you find that cruising bucks stick to these old roads/benches as they move around and checking things out?

I find that during early and late season (not rut) that bucks tend to avoid these old roads because they feel exposed. If I walk down one and spook a buck, it will often be 20 yards or so from the old road.
 
I have never hunted private land. Grew up hunting public and still do. The military base I hunt now we can't use cameras even though some guys still sneak them in of course. Yesterday I had a S wind which was perfect for where I found this buck bed last week and his white oak tree. Walking up the creek I got very close to his feeding area and noticed in that specific area the wind was swirling and blowing right into his bed. At the truck it was perfect but 200 yards later totally different. Figured I was already there and of course didn't see him. Figured he smelled me and it was over before it started. They bed in specific areas for a reason!

Swirly mountain winds are so frustrating. I also think open country spot and stalks are very challenging as well since it takes so much patience with most times very little reward.

Extremely successful big mountain buck killers can argue with me all they want but you have to get lucky. Yes skill is a major part but you have to get lucky to get an opportunity on them. My opportunity came last week the day after finding this bucks bed and feeding area. I messed it up and I may never see him again this year. Its how it goes. Move on and don't let it get you down. Last night as I was hooking up my rope to come down I smiled and thought I have a loving wife and 3 year old waiting for me at home and they are way more important than killing a mature whitetail. However, having both would have made me smile just a tad more

I'm bad at this, but sometimes the best way to hunt an area is to not hunt an area on a bad day.

I have throwaway spots on bad wind days. I try not to hunt prime spots on bad days. I've even got out of the tree and went home when the wind changed (although it killed me to leave the woods).

I think a huge advantage in lower density/tough to hunt areas is living in the area and knowing people. For instance, your buddy that doesn't hunt sees a monster crossing the road on his way home from work and then tells you about it the next day. If you live 2 hours away and are an outsider to the area, then that doesn't happen.
 
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