The weight is going to be similar. I have trimmed down heliums and my set ups both weight in the range of 7-8 pounds. The stepps in the bag are much more compact though. I can also get higher with my 6 stepps and my aider which is a big plus for me.Yes very dangerous with all the slack on the LB. That's why I like a ropeman or even a lone wolf strap for one handed adjusting on the fly.
Does anyone know what the total weight would be with 6 steps, bag, and aider. I figure I could get 18ft and was wondering how it would compare to my full size hawk heliums which 3 get me close to 18 with 1 step aiders on each one.
Did you read the thread on the red squirrel climbing aider?I haven't put this into practice yet, but the thing that turns me off about that method is single point of metal contact of clip and step bar. The noise factor, and it moving around both concern me.
Just watching this video, I came up with a quick fix. Again, I don't know that this is any easier in practice. But I would have to imagine it being a bit safer and quieter. You're spreading the load out across the step bar and the actual step, and naturally balancing load on the aider in the bottom of the loop.
It looks rather complicated, but I included three pictures to show it really isn't. You could leave the sling on the six steps. No additional weight (less than half an ounce). They do cost maybe 6-10.00 each so it's pricey.
Someone can probably come up with a similar concept using accessory cord or amsteel. I just liked this because A- I have it, and it fits perfectly, and B - I trust it. This doesn't have to be super strong, the only weight it should ever support is you stepping up.
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I haven't put this into practice yet, but the thing that turns me off about that method is single point of metal contact of clip and step bar. The noise factor, and it moving around both concern me.
Just watching this video, I came up with a quick fix. Again, I don't know that this is any easier in practice. But I would have to imagine it being a bit safer and quieter. You're spreading the load out across the step bar and the actual step, and naturally balancing load on the aider in the bottom of the loop.
It looks rather complicated, but I included three pictures to show it really isn't. You could leave the sling on the six steps. No additional weight (less than half an ounce). They do cost maybe 6-10.00 each so it's pricey.
Someone can probably come up with a similar concept using accessory cord or amsteel. I just liked this because A- I have it, and it fits perfectly, and B - I trust it. This doesn't have to be super strong, the only weight it should ever support is you stepping up.
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Did you read the thread on the red squirrel climbing aider?
Let me know what it thinks. It eliminates hooking on to the step at all. I agree with you, I wasn't a big fan of doing that.Nope,
Hahah this seemed to be too simple for me to have figured it out. Going read it now!
Let me know what it thinks. It eliminates hooking on to the step at all. I agree with you, I wasn't a big fan of doing that.
Not sure I would like the extra rope for the tread of my boot to snag. I have been using the Stepp aider and have not had it hook slide from side to side while climbing. The only noise is if I let the clip part slam shut. That is the case when clipping to anything. Even that is a dull thud if I am not paying attention. I can see a comfort factor in what you are doing with the the strapping in the pictures but I think it might be a bit much to try to make sure everything is perfect in the dark. If yo clipped to the wrong part, it might not be fun. But then again, I tend to overthink things and then go back to original once I have tried everything else....I haven't put this into practice yet, but the thing that turns me off about that method is single point of metal contact of clip and step bar. The noise factor, and it moving around both concern me.
Just watching this video, I came up with a quick fix. Again, I don't know that this is any easier in practice. But I would have to imagine it being a bit safer and quieter. You're spreading the load out across the step bar and the actual step, and naturally balancing load on the aider in the bottom of the loop.
It looks rather complicated, but I included three pictures to show it really isn't. You could leave the sling on the six steps. No additional weight (less than half an ounce). They do cost maybe 6-10.00 each so it's pricey.
Someone can probably come up with a similar concept using accessory cord or amsteel. I just liked this because A- I have it, and it fits perfectly, and B - I trust it. This doesn't have to be super strong, the only weight it should ever support is you stepping up.
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Thats a good idea, I am sure some will not want the added weight as minimal as it is. I have not had any issues with the aider sliding on the bar.I think you guys are too smart sometimes. You need a simple minded person's opinion once in a while. Why not just take some hockey tape and wrap around bar and make 2 "knobs" by over wrapping the tape similar to the end of a hockey stick so the hook on the aider doesnt slide and make noise.