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Mantis Tips

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Others will find their own method that works for them - but as a reasonably heavy dude (200#) this is what works for me and I just do not get picked off like I use to when I sat and used a ring of steps. I have honed this to work for me over many years.[/QUOTE]

I take offense to this, are you calling me fat? haha
 
DanielB89 said:
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Others will find their own method that works for them - but as a reasonably heavy dude (200#) this is what works for me and I just do not get picked off like I use to when I sat and used a ring of steps. I have honed this to work for me over many years.
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I take offense to this, are you calling me fat? haha[/QUOTE]

Lol im 215 haha im huge now lol!! Alot of factors are at play here. Partly its equipment, how high or low your tether is, bridge length, and the one is body size and shape. You got to play in it and on multiple trees every time is gonna be slightly different
 
floathunter3 said:
For those of us who have no butt, I'm wondering if the SBW heater would help fill out the mesh more and prevent some hip pinch or saddle ride-up. Does anyone have experience with it?
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I have a buddy that I believe is using his SWB inside of his Mantis and he said it makes the Mantis more comfortable. I just got my Medium Mantis yesterday, was only able to get in a tree for about 10 minutes but once I got it lower on my butt like I do my sitdrag it was very comfortable. Hopefully one day this week Ill skip out of work and get in a hunt with it.

I don't have my SWB yet but once I get one I'll try putting inside like my buddy did to see what I think.
 
Crawl79 said:
I have a buddy that I believe is using his SWB inside of his Mantis and he said it makes the Mantis more comfortable. I just got my Medium Mantis yesterday, was only able to get in a tree for about 10 minutes but once I got it lower on my butt like I do my sitdrag it was very comfortable. Hopefully one day this week Ill skip out of work and get in a hunt with it.

I don't have my SWB yet but once I get one I'll try putting inside like my buddy did to see what I think.
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Let me know how the SWB works on the inside of the saddle. I haven't purchased one but if it helps with comfort I might.
 
floathunter3 said:
Let me know how the SWB works on the inside of the saddle. I haven't purchased one but if it helps with comfort I might.
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I'll let you know when I try it out but no timeline when I will get my SWB, only ordered last week so not sure when.

This is message I got from buddy of mine that told me about it:
So, got my Mantis SBW Heater and recliner in today. Wayyyyy more comfortable. I actually took the heater and put it inside the saddle instead of on the outside. Use it like a cushion
 
If filling out the mantis will make it more comfortable y’all may want to try these. You may even pick up a tethrd modeling contract for advertising. Win win. Lol
 

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Crawl79 said:
I'll let you know when I try it out but no timeline when I will get my SWB, only ordered last week so not sure when.

This is message I got from buddy of mine that told me about it:
So, got my Mantis SBW Heater and recliner in today. Wayyyyy more comfortable. I actually took the heater and put it inside the saddle instead of on the outside. Use it like a cushion
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I have worn my winter bib overalls a few times this fall. They add to the comfort

Really many people initially complain of discomfort initially

Keep playing with it. And your body will adapt. And you will figure out what works for you

Kind of like when you play hockey the first time each fall. The body adapts and soreness disappears after a few games

My mantis and kestrel are comfortable. But not like a climber or hybrid which are super comfortable

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longbowwoman said:
3 Blade Rage I have the same problem. I just got my Mantis today and set up close to ground level to do any adjustments. I got the Micro fit adjusters where I wanted them and got my tether height. I am a 5'4" woman just to give you an idea on my size. Got the waist belt snug and leg straps adjusted. I hung and moved around for a while and the Mantis kept riding up and up towards my back and had to keep pulling it down under my butt. I cinched the micro adjusters tighter thinking this would help and it didn't. It's like the bottom of the Mantis doesn't cup your butt to form a seat. Does anyone have any suggestions?
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I’m about your same size and wear a woman’s size 10 pant. I tried the leg loops in the upper hook up and had the saddle creep up. I know I’m safe but I was constantly pulling it down for comfort. This last sit I tried the lower leg hook up and tightened it down until they were snug. This kept the saddle in place and I didn’t have to pull it down once.
 
I was out hanging the other day and took some advice I got from G2 Outdoors. He said to try putting the Mantis waist belt below where my normal belt sits. It worked for me! It did not ride up anymore. I adjusted my tether also where my knees would be at a 90 degree angle when seated. It did not ride up at all if I was leaning or seated anymore. Thanks for everyones help!
 
longbowwoman said:
I was out hanging the other day and took some advice I got from G2 Outdoors. He said to try putting the Mantis waist belt below where my normal belt sits. It worked for me! It did not ride up anymore. I adjusted my tether also where my knees would be at a 90 degree angle when seated. It did not ride up at all if I was leaning or seated anymore. Thanks for everyones help!
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So if my mantis seems like it is riding up, is this the trick? Keep waist belt lower than normal belt? Also, what height is your tether at?
 
I also had a little ride up and moved the leg buckles down to the lower level loops. That help alot, I also tightened my micro adjusters all the way. I had the SBW heater on the inside of my saddle and I think that caused a little extra ride up as well, next time I'll move it to the outside like their video shows.
 
I sat in the ran this morning, my tether was a little high, but I need to shorten my rope from tether to bridge as
Well. Still learning.
 
Mag1 said:
So if my mantis seems like it is riding up, is this the trick? Keep waist belt lower than normal belt? Also, what height is your tether at?
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I'd recommend that. I don't have a saddle that the waist belt would sit where I need it when i'm hanging. First thing I do after I attach to my tether is loosen the waist belt and pull the saddle down where I want it.
 
Thanks, just went back to page one and noticed some of the thing bass had mentioned as well.
 
This is the email I received from Greg Godfrey after I asked Tethrd that same question. It really helped me out and found that it stopped riding up any more. Hopefully it will help you. ;
From Greg,
Try these things.
1. Move your tether down around neck/chin height when standing straight up. Most people find the sweet spot as low as their chest and as high as slightly above their heads.
2. When you're in the "sitting" position, your knees/quads should form a right angle to the tree trunk, or be slightly above a right angle...but not much. If you have too much angle in your knees, the "slide" feeling can be exaggerated. To adjust your angle move your prusik knot (or Ropeman 1) lower on your tether until you hit the proper angle.
3. Make sure the top webbing strap (the one with the molle loops) of the Mantis is just below your belt line. This is wear most users find the best comfort. Also, don't be afraid to move the main webbing straps of the Mantis higher and lower. If #1 & #2 don't fix your problem, play with the positioning of the Mantis until you get comfortable.
4. Add in the Mantis Recliner if you haven't already. For me, the Mantis was comfortable, but not FANTASTIC until I added the Recliner. Now I can sit all day long and be completely comfortable. I'm not sure why back support makes such a huge difference in the comfort of my butt, but it certainly did. The Recliner is a Game Changer. I'm happy to provide a Recliner at a discount if it will help you get comfortable.
5. Don't forget Saddle Shape is a thing. It can take many hours before you feel totally comfortable. It took me probably 5 sits in my Mantis before I got it figured out and I have almost a decade of saddle hunting experience.

Ernie, feel free to chime in if I missed anything.

Hopefully that helps!
 
For me, I moved my saddle below my belt and tightened it. Then I adjusted my tether. Then, I adjusted where my bridge sat on my tether. I adjusted this length also and followed Greg's recommendations for this. I found that the more acute of an angle that my bridge/tether is to the tree, the more of a pull on my saddle upwards. The more line on my bridge/tether ( so I have a 90 degree angle in my legs when seated), my saddle pulls into my butt and not upwards. May not be for everyone but it worked for me and I am comfortable.
 
If you wear a strap around your waist how would you think that will carry any weight? Think angles..... however high you place your tether will create force at a specific point or two. Move the straps there to get "under your rear end" as much as possible. Most folks are keeping the top strap too high and this creates all the pressure on one strap and will increase/magnify pressure there and increase hip pinch.
 
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