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New saddle I hadn’t seen...

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ENO single nest 29.99, klik belt with cobra d ring $79.99 enough amsteel to replace the polyester rope on the hammock maybe $30... in theory it’s way expensive but once you pay someone to make that video and sew that belt/pouch into the middle of the hammock it’ll run ya about $215. The mark up from there is usually because the bigger companies have to pay that high dollar specialty liability insurance. Not sure if this company has that or not. The videos are top quality though

Versus what we used to do which was an RC harness and a sheet of fabric... the price is quite high for what it is, I agree.


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I DIYd this exact thing about 4 years ago, minus the built in belt, I used a RCH instead. It is hella comfortable, but also hella noisy. Even the yearling does that were around when I was testing it didn't tolerate the noise from it well.
Yea I tried using a small hammock with a similar set up a few years back. I was hog hunting and they had gone nocturnal. So I thought make a hammock style saddle to expand and sleep in the tree. That way when they came out rooting around I’d hear them. Turned out every time I moved a little, things heard me instead. Opossum, coons, a fox and at least 2 hogs never made it under the predator lights to the feeder because if I shifted the fabric made noise. Let alone sit forward to grab my bow. It was frustrating and an idea I quickly shelved
 
Hey guys this is Dane, the owner. Didn't know it made it here till Joel called me up.

Theres a lot of questions here and I'll try to hit some. Feel free to call me if you want.

Lot of people talking about noise.. we went through a bunch of material looking for a quiet material and we landed on a really soft in the hand ripstop nylon. Its very high quality (we loaded these with 400 pounds of sand and dropped em 9.5 feet from the air and they never flinched). It's not noisy at all, suprisingly. It's not like the stuff you're familiar with like at, say, Hobby Lobby. If someone doubts me, I'll send em a swatch of scrape material to feel themselves.

Seems like guys are concerned with getting wrapped up and confused at 4 am in the morning trying to pull this thing out of the pouch. This is a valid concern and one that I can't really defend against except to say that with practice comes familiarity. You can tell which side is up and which side is down by looking at the girth hitches on the hammock (one side of grosgrain is longer than the other, and the back adjusters are located on the top as well - easy to spot). For how comfortable this thing is I would fight this thing for 30 minutes if I had to. I keep telling this to people who ask: when I can sit for 3-4 hours straight and read a book without shifting my weight -- I'll pay double for it. I told Joel when we were iterating on this thing I never had a plan to bring it to market... but it turned into something we love so I figured why not, I'll throw my hat in the ring.

That brings up the next point, cost. We priced out product pretty low actually compared to the market. We've got 3 continuous loops of amsteel (one for the main support to the d-ring, and two that girth hitch onto the hammock). The reason for the two on the hammock is so that it grabs the material and doesn't put any weight on the stitching (we verified this point when load testing). We also have two long pieces of 1/4in amsteel (one for the main support and one for the hammock bridge). I don't know if you guys have ever worked with amsteel but it's rough, slow, and expensive. But its lightweight, sleek, packs great, and is strong. Add on a BIG piece of hammock material, and a very expensive buckle... Anyway, I beg one of you guys to go make one of these by yourself and tell me how many hours it takes you. We have way more labor involved in our product and more than likely more material costs and we still are pricing our product right alongside everyone else.

Yeah, you could make one with a rock climbing hardness and fleece. But this thing allows modular parts like the loop de' loop, modular molle, and underquilts that you see on the website. Also, when we start doing different patterns of hammocks you don't have to buy anything else but the hammock if you've already invested in our system. Not to mention, when you stand up on your platform and the fabric drapes down, it hangs at your waist (we sew it to the pouch) and you can sit right back down without having to pull it back up. If you want to get close to what we've made, it'll require a lot of work and you've still got to get behind a sewing machine. And you don't get removable leg straps and a quick attach buckle.

Someone mentioned putting it away when you are at climbing height. It's not bad actually. I thought it was gonna be the achilles heal but you can slide the pouch over to your hip and tuck it in. If you hate doing that, just drape the bridge around your head/neck and climb on down and put it away at the base of the tree.

Now most importantly.. concerning my pants: my wife found those for me (she is a vintage thrifter). They are true genuine winchester vintage pants and no I'm not selling em!
That’s unfortunate about the pants :) seriously though Thanks for the info. Any chance you video recorded that 400 lbs of sand and 9.5ft drop? I’d love to see that.
 
That’s unfortunate about the pants :) seriously though Thanks for the info. Any chance you video recorded that 400 lbs of sand and 9.5ft drop? I’d love to see that.

I do actually, I documented all of it. I'll be posting it on Dryad's instagram soon so keep tuned. If you can believe it, I put a ~10" rip in it and we dropped it again at 9ft with 400 lbs and the tear didn't even propagate.
 
Following for the sandbag drop video.

On these 'hammock' style saddles is the bridge loop adjustable?

Does anyone one stick/ rappel with this style?

Yes there are three prussiks. One at each end of the hammock bridge, and one on the main line going to the belt. All three are adjustable, of course.

Edit: I lied, there are actually 5 prussiks. The other two are located on the hammock bridge to adjust the angle of your back relative to the tree. If you watch the video you'll see me push the black cordage up at some point.
 
I do actually, I documented all of it. I'll be posting it on Dryad's instagram soon so keep tuned. If you can believe it, I put a ~10" rip in it and we dropped it again at 9ft with 400 lbs and the tear didn't even propagate.
With those results you probably didn’t have any trouble getting that high dollar liability insurance either. I’m sure they look at material strength testing or stuff like that when determining pricing and coverage and that probably plays into your price point. I mean amsteel definitely ain’t cheap and neither is fabric. We get our fabric for diy hammocks from ripstop by the roll, but I have never found any that was quiet like the mesh most companies use.
As far as documenting it, that is awesome. I bet the video will be great because the other two are! I definitely have to see it to believe it. What about a 3rd party test site like some of the other companies have done? All of these things help with product marketing and piece of mind.
 
Let’s try & get the direct vendor interaction, specs videos in this thread in order to keep this open & productive.
 
A oversized fleece saddle is very similar to this as far as design. When I hunted with the fleece saddle I never had a desire to move the fabric up over my shoulders though. Having it up under my armpits then laying my head on the bridge was more than enough for me to sleep. I’ve said before and many of the OGs already know you’ll be hard pressed to find something as comfortable as a fleece saddle. I made mine for $5.
I couldn’t tell from the pictures but It appears this does not have lineman’s loops.
 
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