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Super light experimental DIY LWCG stick

GBlevins92 said:
Question is will that be strong enough to bolt the step with out going through the back of the tubing......if not I wonder if you could put two inserts and use two bolts to secure a aluminum block like on the xop steps. I know this would add a little weight though.


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The bolt holds the step also.
This would be for the bolt that stops the step from spinning all the way around.


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ImThere said:
The bolt holds the step also.
This would be for the bolt that stops the step from spinning all the way around.


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Yeah that’s what I was thinking as well. I don’t think strength will be an issue there.

You think there’d be an easy name for it so we don’t confuse each other.

Step rest bolt? Step stop bolt? Step support bolt?


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Labonte.r said:
I’m eyeballing some threaded aluminum bungs for an option to level my Klemz platform platform but you’d need access to a welder. I wouldn’t trust those river style ones not strong enough imo.
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They are on the back of every muddy pro made?


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The river style? Sorry I’m not familiar with the muddy sticks. With the pressure on these bolts think just one side of the post is enough? I was also thinking about this and thought of just cutting a larger diameter hole on backside of stick so could fit nut on inside it would eliminate nut on backside and allow standoff to pivot freely. I’m just unsure if it’ll be strong enough without bolting straight through but I’m sure testing will determine.
 
Labonte.r said:
The river style? Sorry I’m not familiar with the muddy sticks. With the pressure on these bolts think just one side of the post is enough? I was also thinking about this and thought of just cutting a larger diameter hole on backside of stick so could fit nut on inside it would eliminate nut on backside and allow standoff to pivot freely. I’m just unsure if it’ll be strong enough without bolting straight through but I’m sure testing will determine.
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Yes they put the rivet style in the back of the stick on the Muddys. They hold the cam cleat. I would install them the same way and use a washer on the back in between the stick and standoffs


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Ok I misread post originally I thought u were going to use this on the front of stick and just be riveted to that front face and not actually go all the way through. I like it more now.
 
redsquirrel said:
@ImThere and I have been working on this off and on this year.
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Those look sharp! How do you like those Versa Lites on that stick @redsquirrel?


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ckossuth said:
Those look sharp! How do you like those Versa Lites on that stick @redsquirrel?


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Well you know how I feel about sticks... lol... but I've tried sticks again twice in the past 2 weeks. I definitely like the versa lites and will keep giving them the nod if I take sticks.
 
ImThere said:
30PCs 1/4"-20 Stainless Steel Rivet Nuts Flat Head Insert Nutsert 1/4-20UNC https://www.amazon.com/dp/B077GQLQZ8/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_H-3oCbGCC73QV


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Ordered the riv nuts from Amazon and finally got them installed. The thread pitch on the step stop bolts are actually different than the bolts used on the steps ( go figure). I had some others laying around so I was able to work it out. They protrude out of the back side a little bit so I took some thicker washers from an old rifle bar I had laying around and it gave the stand offs just enough clearance to spin.

They don’t stack very well side by side unless you alternate them mainly because of the width of the step and versa button. They stacked very well alternating the direction of every other stick. Not really sure this is more beneficial than stacking the normal way. It would allow them to stack tight to the stand with stick talons I think.

I’m gonna keep tinkering and see what I can come up with.

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tim_dawg22 said:
Ordered the riv nuts from Amazon and finally got them installed. The thread pitch on the step stop bolts are actually different than the bolts used on the steps ( go figure). I had some others laying around so I was able to work it out. They protrude out of the back side a little bit so I took some thicker washers from an old rifle bar I had laying around and it gave the stand offs just enough clearance to spin.

They don’t stack very well side by side unless you alternate them mainly because of the width of the step and versa button. They stacked very well alternating the direction of every other stick. Not really sure this is more beneficial than stacking the normal way. It would allow them to stack tight to the stand with stick talons I think.

I’m gonna keep tinkering and see what I can come up with.

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Looks good I just got some of my stuff in today got 3/4” tubing and inserts.... how did you put your inserts in.... I knew the step would be an issue so I’m going to try to make one the with of the stick.


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This is what they look like side by side. About the same distance apart as stacking them on top of each other I think.

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To get them tighter I’d think you’d need a slimmer step and have to shave the versa button down.


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GBlevins92 said:
Looks good I just got some of my stuff in today got 3/4” tubing and inserts.... how did you put your inserts in.... I knew the step would be an issue so I’m going to try to make one the with of the stick.


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I have this pretty sweet tool my buddy gave me. It does blind rivets and all sorts of stuff. Made by Fastening Systems International (FSI).

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GBlevins92 said:
Looks good I just got some of my stuff in today got 3/4” tubing and inserts.... how did you put your inserts in.... I knew the step would be an issue so I’m going to try to make one the with of the stick.


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Just brainstorming but...... If you don’t have access to an insert tool you might be able to drill the hole just a little bit too small and then tap the inserts in with a hammer where the ribbed part will grab on the sticks. Might be enough to get the bolts on tight.


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tim_dawg22 said:
Just brainstorming but...... If you don’t have access to an insert tool you might be able to drill the hole just a little bit too small and then tap the inserts in with a hammer where the ribbed part will grab on the sticks. Might be enough to get the bolts on tight.


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I’ll got a practice piece I’ll try that on!


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been playing around with a step design to fit the 3/4” wide profile.


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Murph4028 said:
I like it. Is that a CAD design? If so, what does it say they weigh?
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I did that on designer tool they have on bigbluesaw.com it doesn’t give a weight so I’m not sure..... but for 10 of them will be about $16 a piece....problem is I can’t just get 1 cut to play with unless I want to pay like $100 for one step but I can have them cut one out of plastic I may use to test to see how it flows on the stick.... I’ll try to figure out how to estimate the weight.


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Cant really go wrong if you make the step dimensions about 3/8"x1"x 4-5". That's about the typical dimensions.
 
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