That’s interesting. They haven’t updated the weight of the flex. The kestrel was right at 3 lbs. The flex was listed at 2 lbs as a single layer of cordura. Not the end of the world. I’d like to sit in the flex and yarak. Right now I think if I had to hunt in an aerohunter saddle it would be the kite.
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Tethrd Phantom vs. WE Yarak?
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I want the kite too
It’s on my list of saddles to buy this year
Getting wife and kids into this was good and bad
She never says a word against me doing anything hunting related, but I end up buying her (and now the kids) a lot of the same gear
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Ontariofarmer
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Yes it is a promo but it is an interesting comparison and how can you not want to watch a @flinginairos video.
I guess I can post this especially when I do not like the mantis and I am not a pro
I think Tethrd heard my complaints - the mantis is not comfortable. They have tried to address comfort. The video makes me want to try the phantom.
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I was all set on getting the Flex or the Yarak when available. But the Phantom has me second guessing. I definitely was not going to get a Mantis.
dblomberg4
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As a Kite owner who spent the year in one, I can't imagine you wouldn't love it... i'm also looking at the yarak / trohpyline / and phantom to buy this offseason as well.
Yea I am probably going to buying one when they go on sale. I thought old @flinginairos gave a pretty in depth comparison between the 2 saddles.
I'd like to have both of them sent to Ohio to compare to a 40 yr. old Anderson. I promise I'll keep an open mind w/ my review.
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You don’t need a mantis. Just a phantom to compare.
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I got an email last week from them. Said they will be coming soon and to sign up for notifications.I’m not sure there will be more Yaraks?
I’ve asked quite a few times and no response
And yeah I think kite will nestle into my saddle harem well
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I have No idea in what capacity.
Man I miss you guys. I don't get on here nearly as much as I used to.
As far as a Yarak comparison, I haven't been able to get my hands on one.
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That’s odd I’m on their lists and haven’t seen anything
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While I havent hunted out or the Mantis, Phantom, Flex or Yarak, Ive made clones of and spent more than 10 hours in each. I found the phantom design to be the most comfortable. The weight savings is a bonus, as is the reduced fiddle factor. Managing the pleat on the Flex and Yarak clones was a PITA in my opinion. Especially the mesh pleat. The Phantom clone seems to be the right size to get as much cupping as I needed. I also made a pleated Phantom clone. Same result. Mesh pleats are a PITA. I have a heavy duty zipper in route that im going to add to the pleat to see if that makes a difference.
Each of the saddles I made were done so using measurements I came up with based on photos found on the interwebs. I used the assumed webbing width and calculated the length and width of each saddle, bridge loop and linemans loops. I found what I thought was comparable material and put them together. The Flex clone I made was more like the current version, with double material to avoid the problems of edges fraying and pulling from the binding.
With the Flex and Yarak clones, I Did not use the heavier chassis webbing that the manufactures use. Dont think its necessary and cannot comment as to whether or not that makes a difference in comfort. I did use leg buckles on the flex. I dont see any purpose in them as I havent been in a situation where I felt insecure with g-hooks. Leg straps and waist buckle are not load bearing for me.
Did not like the Mantis. Wasnt for me at all. That was the first design I tried to clone, so that may have had something to do with it!
Each of the saddles I made were done so using measurements I came up with based on photos found on the interwebs. I used the assumed webbing width and calculated the length and width of each saddle, bridge loop and linemans loops. I found what I thought was comparable material and put them together. The Flex clone I made was more like the current version, with double material to avoid the problems of edges fraying and pulling from the binding.
With the Flex and Yarak clones, I Did not use the heavier chassis webbing that the manufactures use. Dont think its necessary and cannot comment as to whether or not that makes a difference in comfort. I did use leg buckles on the flex. I dont see any purpose in them as I havent been in a situation where I felt insecure with g-hooks. Leg straps and waist buckle are not load bearing for me.
Did not like the Mantis. Wasnt for me at all. That was the first design I tried to clone, so that may have had something to do with it!
Bowtech12
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I’m in
huntin_addict
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Now if only the Yarak was available.....
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If their definition of soon is maybe sometime in 2021, I would still be skeptical.
I’ve tried both the Yarak and phantom and for me the phantom is a better saddle.
I just don’t care for the pleat walking in with the saddle on.
I feel Tethrd has found a saddle design that just simply works without all the bulk.
We are all different in size and setup style so others may have a totally different opinion between these two saddles.
You will have to try both yourself to know which one is best for you.
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I just don’t care for the pleat walking in with the saddle on.
I feel Tethrd has found a saddle design that just simply works without all the bulk.
We are all different in size and setup style so others may have a totally different opinion between these two saddles.
You will have to try both yourself to know which one is best for you.
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