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Treebolts revisited
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Yes they are Grade 8.
I work in heavy industry, and that is from our supplier. That is probably not an over-the-counter price.
IkemanTX
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You will need to find a bit stop so the depth is the same every time. The screw tip auger bits will do best. I found out the hard way that standard bits clog completely on live, wet wood. Someone posted a link to stubby screw tip auger bits... that might be a good bit to start with.
I would at least find two 6” bolts and give them a go before paying that much more for the larger ones.
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ricky racer
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Using longer bolts will only give more opportunity for them to bend. Grade 8 bolts 3/8" x 6" is the ticket..
Thinking about prepping a few of my favorite trees and leaving the bolts in permanently. Factoring in the growth of the tree I’m debating going with 7” bolts.
Has anyone left 6” bolts in a tree? If so how many years can you get out of them before there’s not enough bolt sticking out of the tree?
I would imagine a healthy tree can grow 1/4-1/2 per year? If so in just a couple years I wouldn’t have very much bolt left to hang on too.
Has anyone left 6” bolts in a tree? If so how many years can you get out of them before there’s not enough bolt sticking out of the tree?
I would imagine a healthy tree can grow 1/4-1/2 per year? If so in just a couple years I wouldn’t have very much bolt left to hang on too.
buckshideout
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My state allows tree pegs on public lands. I would assume treeboltd would be good to go?
Babshaft
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I think you'd be safe to use them. Awesome man!
Babshaft
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Ya I imagine you'd lose them pretty quick. I was thinking of doing that in a few of the places I hunt, but then I thought: why not just pull them at the end of the season and re drill every pre season? Seems like a lot of work but if it's only a few trees it's not so bad and it would give you a chance to do more scouting in that area.
ricky racer
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Here I go again, back on my soapbox. As hunters I feel we are to be good stewards of our environment. Timber of any type is a renewable natural resource. States oftentimes lease State Forest acreage to timber companies to generate income and improve wildlife habit.
Land owners will also sell timber to Foresters either allowing clear cutting or select cut for the same reasons. When irresistible hunters leave treesteps in trees it is like leaving a grenade out there for someone to find the hard way.
Even if you own the land, chances are those trees will still be there once you're gone. The hidden steps will still be there waiting to hurt someone running the tree through a sawmill.
For no more effort it takes, remove your steps/bolts at the end of the season.
Land owners will also sell timber to Foresters either allowing clear cutting or select cut for the same reasons. When irresistible hunters leave treesteps in trees it is like leaving a grenade out there for someone to find the hard way.
Even if you own the land, chances are those trees will still be there once you're gone. The hidden steps will still be there waiting to hurt someone running the tree through a sawmill.
For no more effort it takes, remove your steps/bolts at the end of the season.
The area I would do this in will without a doubt never be logged, think flooded cypress swamp. Also a good amount of old screw in steps are currently scattered around to never be removed. Thanks for your opinion though.
If it helps, I would not consider doing it in areas with any chance of logging.
Yea, I imagine I could probably work them out with a ratchet at the end of the season. 6” bolts are a lot cheaper then 7 1/2” by almost half!
Sipsey
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I used some bolts a few years back to climb a backyard tree to saw some limbs. Several years later I realized I had left a few in. The bolts were only sticking out an inch or so. They came out nicely with a ratchet and though darkened were still useable.
Thanks! Glad to know they can still come out after a few years!
denots
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It sounds like you could go in every year the trees that you leave preset and back the bolt out just a little bit with a ratchet. By doing this you would always ensure that you had plenty of Bolt to step on. I guess the downfall would be not knowing the true condition of the bolt without removing it all the way.
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Yea, that’s my plan. May take a little experimenting to get it just right. Some trees I have way back I may or may not hunt the entire season. They take a considerable amount of effort to get to them and it’s not really practical to drill them every year. If I could get at least a few years out of 1 drilling I’ll be plenty happy. Even if I eventually have to remove them and redrill holes.
I ordered 100 7 1/2” bolts for $75. That’s considerably cheaper then I can find screw in steps for. You can get 175 6” bolts for the same price so I will experiment with each size.
I’m really glad to know they will come out pretty easy.
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Are they Grade 8 Bolts? Where did you find them in 7.5"?
Ebay, and yes they are grade 8... well at least they are advertised as such. I’m pretty sure it’s the same seller I bought my original 6” bolts from a few years back.
Search “3/8”-16x7-1/2” grade 8 hex bolts” it should give you a few different options the seller is “reddingfasteners”
He also has 8” aswell.
I tried again in a swamp this weekend.
The hand drill works surprisingly well and isn't too difficult. I don't think I'd want to use it on a mobile hunt in the early season. It's just too hot here in GA. When it's cold, I think it could be a viable option.
This little 8v Ryobi drill just isn't enough. It was good for about 7 or 8 bolts into hard Live Oak tree, but even those took some finesse. Back to the 18V Dewalt. If the Dewalt zips through the tree like I think it will, these bolts are going to be an AMAZING preset method.
The hand drill works surprisingly well and isn't too difficult. I don't think I'd want to use it on a mobile hunt in the early season. It's just too hot here in GA. When it's cold, I think it could be a viable option.
This little 8v Ryobi drill just isn't enough. It was good for about 7 or 8 bolts into hard Live Oak tree, but even those took some finesse. Back to the 18V Dewalt. If the Dewalt zips through the tree like I think it will, these bolts are going to be an AMAZING preset method.
Babshaft
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Thanks for the info. Did you find it quiet enough to use the hand drill on a bedding setup? Trying to get as many opinions on this as possible.I tried again in a swamp this weekend.
The hand drill works surprisingly well and isn't too difficult. I don't think I'd want to use it on a mobile hunt in the early season. It's just too hot here in GA. When it's cold, I think it could be a viable option.
This little 8v Ryobi drill just isn't enough. It was good for about 7 or 8 bolts into hard Live Oak tree, but even those took some finesse. Back to the 18V Dewalt. If the Dewalt zips through the tree like I think it will, these bolts are going to be an AMAZING preset method.
Cheers