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You realy gunna carry all that.

If I knew a certain pattern or timing of a target buck that was using that area at that certain time frame that would give me a shot at him then dam right I would carry all my gear up there to set up before first light lol.
Now I will say I carry very very little in my pack and setup. My entire pack with 3 sticks, platform ,and everything else weighs 13 lbs.
I am sure I would carry a bit more if I ever hunted terrain like this picture shows, at least a lot more safety type things or navigation tools. lol
 
Vines with thorns would be the #1 culprit for me as far as what is actually grabbing u and hindering forward process....next would be the submerged log that ur toe goes underneath and then proceeds to trip u and make u fall in the water.....but the thorn vines would be my nemesis if I had to choose.

We could sit here and have a pissing match and argue over who's woods are "thicker".... but id win
You would definitely win. The nasty vines, and the stupid palmettos that grow so close together and thick that only hogs and armadillos can navigate thru them. Factor in that 85% of our hunting season is above 85 degrees and those mountains of Oregon sound pretty tempting. We don’t have mountainous terrain, but we have plenty of swamps, sugar sand and some of the thickest densest forestry in this country. The one bright side is, we have some WMA’s with decent horse trails, fire lanes, and roadways. For what it’s worth @tailgunner , I’m in the woods with 16 lbs (saddle and bow included) for long hunts and about 13 lbs for short ones. Nearly Two pounds of that is my gear strap, thermocell and tether. 2 more pounds of that is the waters I bring along. That’s not exactly toting a heavy load and I’m not a full minimalist either. I don’t carry sticks either.
 
If you've never walked the mountains for a week at 10k, you have no idea.

Same as if you've never walked the marsh.
I’ve walked them for a week or two every year at around 6k elevation. It’s not that bad after you acclimate to the thinner air. I’ve been in the heat and humidity my whole life and I have never acclimated to dehydration and heat exhaustion :sweatsmile:
 
I’ve walked them for a week or two every year at around 6k elevation. It’s not that bad after you acclimate to the thinner air. I’ve been in the heat and humidity my whole life and I have never acclimated to dehydration and heat exhaustion :sweatsmile:
There is a significant difference between 6K and 10k or above. Blow down and sugar sand are similar in that a day in either will make them hips hurt. Kinda like an all day scouting trip in our briar patches.
 
You would definitely win. The nasty vines, and the stupid palmettos that grow so close together and thick that only hogs and armadillos can navigate thru them. Factor in that 85% of our hunting season is above 85 degrees and those mountains of Oregon sound pretty tempting. We don’t have mountainous terrain, but we have plenty of swamps, sugar sand and some of the thickest densest forestry in this country. The one bright side is, we have some WMA’s with decent horse trails, fire lanes, and roadways. For what it’s worth @tailgunner , I’m in the woods with 16 lbs (saddle and bow included) for long hunts and about 13 lbs for short ones. Nearly Two pounds of that is my gear strap, thermocell and tether. 2 more pounds of that is the waters I bring along. That’s not exactly toting a heavy load and I’m not a full minimalist either. I don’t carry sticks either.
Brother you was late.welda already wooped me with à même.
 
There is a significant difference between 6K and 10k or above. Blow down and sugar sand are similar in that a day in either will make them hips hurt. Kinda like an all day scouting trip in our briar patches.
True. But sugar sand gets in every crevice and crack you can think of and it holds heat too lol it’s a compound problem
 
So how are you ultralighters out west packing out your Blacktails, bears, elk and Muley’s then when you connect? I want to see your gear laid out like in a military training manual.
Not an ultralighter by any stretch of the imagination - I hunt Northern MN and usually need layers by the time gun season rolls around - but I carry all my crap to where the deer is, dress it, drag it someplace convenient, then head back to the truck to ground my trash and grab a toboggan. We have to bring out everything but the gut pile - and if I get drawn for the city hunt, I have to pack out the gut pile as well. Would be nice to pack out quarters or whatever, and I think you're asking how ultralighters pack out broken-down quarters or meat, which is something I would like to see as well. I'm imagining game bags with shoulder straps.
 
I’ve walked them for a week or two every year at around 6k elevation. It’s not that bad after you acclimate to the thinner air. I’ve been in the heat and humidity my whole life and I have never acclimated to dehydration and heat exhaustion :sweatsmile:


Yup.

I walk sand with a weighted pack whenever I'm preparing for out west cause I have miles of it right down the road. Like you said, after you acclimate to altitude it's pretty simple except for the constant up or down. Your feet are generally on firm ground.
That's not happening in sand or marsh. Marsh is the worst, and I'm the best marsh walker all my buddies have seen. I only say that cause they tell me every year.
 
I'm a flatlander and have suffered with asthma my entire life but had no problems with breathing or stamina hunting or hiking Colorado at 5 to 12 thousand feet. My wife, however, gets terrible sickening headaches above 8 thousand feet. It is kind of an individual thing I believe.
 
I'm a flatlander and have suffered with asthma my entire life but had no problems with breathing or stamina hunting or hiking Colorado at 5 to 12 thousand feet. My wife, however, gets terrible sickening headaches above 8 thousand feet. It is kind of an individual thing I believe.
My wife is in way better shape than I am but hiking above 12.5k feet starts to be a problem for her. I havent had any issues with elevation up to 14k. No rhyme or reason to it best I can tell.
 
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